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US involved in Israeli operation in Nuseirat that killed over 200 Palestinians (www.middleeasteye.net)

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The Israeli military had US support in rescuing four captives from Gaza in a "complex daytime operation" in Nuseirat that killed over 200 Palestinians.

A US official told Axios that the US hostages cell in Israel had "supported" the effort to rescue the captives.

The Palestinian government media office in Gaza said the death toll from Israel's attack on central Gaza had reached at least 210, with 400 more wounded.

"The occupation has annihilated the Nuseirat refugee camp. Innocent and unarmed civilian were bombed in their homes. I've never seen anything like this. It's a catastrophe," local Nidal Abdo told Middle East Eye.

"I came from the camp to here in the hospital on foot. I can't describe how we fled. I saw dead children and body parts strewn all over as we fled. No one was able to assist them. I saw an elderly man killed on a animal-drawn cart.

"Nuseirat was being annihilated. It was hell."

It said: "American participation in the criminal operation that was carried out today proves once again the complicit role of the American administration, its full participation in the war crimes committed in the Gaza Strip, [and] the falsity of its declared positions on the humanitarian situation and its concern for the lives of civilians."

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Glad to see 4 hostages rescued too.

Fuck Israel for their thinking 4 people are worth that.

[+] capital -6 points 5 months ago (4 children)

"We know where our people are but Hamas has surrounded themselves with their own citizens. What should we do?"

"Damn. I guess we'll have to abandon our people then. Pack it up."

Stop letting Hamas' tactic work on you.

[–] kaffiene 6 points 5 months ago

Or, you know, they could just get them all back by agreeing to a peace deal and not killing anyone

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

4 adults for 23 kids is not worth it.

I would say that everyone of them should be reminded what their rescue cost repeatedly, but that’s not fair to them and the others are like you and think the trade is worth it.

Stop letting Israel’s tactics work on you.

[–] capital -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Darn. Guess we just have to let Hamas and anyone who comes after do whatever they want as long as they keep their human shields nearby.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Whatever you have to tell yourself to be okay with killing kids friend.

It’s s probably just “they’re brown”

[–] capital -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Keep reducing everything to the color of people’s skin and you’ll continue to be confused about lots of other people’s positions on a wide variety of topics.

I’m sure it makes life simpler for you though.

Just in case you’re not totally gone, consider the Russia Ukraine conflict.

If Ukraine took action to recover their kidnapped citizens and it ended like this one did, I’d hold the exact same position. And gasp their skin is white!

Unlike lots of “progressives”, my opinion of right and wrong doesn’t change with people’s skin color.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You didn't even need to use that conflict as an example. Most Israelis are brown.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago

They’re less brown then the people they’re killing and unfortunately that’s all that matters to a lot of people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Ok, you’re just a regular piece of shit, not a racist one.

I guess that’s better

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Isarel: Forcibly displaces people again, again and again, cramming them into less and less space.

You: Why is Hamas surrounding itself with Civillians, that is so evil!!!

Israel: Lets use aid trucks to bring our fighters in and slaughter random people. It is a clear warcrime to abuse humanitarian infrastructure to transport combatants, but who cares.

You: Oh my gosh. They did so well with their war crimes. It is totally justified because i am closeted racist, so who cares about women and children being murdered if they aren't part of my group

[–] capital 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Y'all mind if we stop pretending Hamas isn't totally cool with getting their own citizens killed?

GAZA CITY The emergency room in Shifa Hospital is often a place of gore and despair. On Thursday, it was also a lesson in the way ordinary people are squeezed between suicidal fighters and a military behemoth.

Dr. Awni al-Jaru, 37, a surgeon at the hospital, rushed in from his home here, dressed in his scrubs. But he came not to work. His head was bleeding, and his daughter’s jaw was broken.

He said Hamas militants next to his apartment building had fired mortar and rocket rounds. Israel fired back with force, and his apartment was hit. His wife, Albina, originally from Ukraine, and his 1-year-old son were killed.

“My son has been turned into pieces,” he cried. “My wife was cut in half. I had to leave her body at home.” Because Albina was a foreigner, she could have left Gaza with her children. But, Dr. Jaru lamented, she would not leave him behind.

A car arrived with more patients. One was a 21-year-old man with shrapnel in his left leg who demanded quick treatment. He turned out to be a militant with Islamic Jihad. He was smiling a big smile.

“Hurry, I must get back so I can keep fighting,” he told the doctors.

He was told that there were more serious cases than his, that he needed to wait. But he insisted. “We are fighting the Israelis,” he said. “When we fire we run, but they hit back so fast. We run into the houses to get away.” He continued smiling.

“Why are you so happy?” this reporter asked. “Look around you.”

A girl who looked about 18 screamed as a surgeon removed shrapnel from her leg. An elderly man was soaked in blood. A baby a few weeks old and slightly wounded looked around helplessly. A man lay with parts of his brain coming out. His family wailed at his side.

“Don’t you see that these people are hurting?” the militant was asked.

“But I am from the people, too,” he said, his smile incandescent. “They lost their loved ones as martyrs. They should be happy. I want to be a martyr, too.”

https://web.archive.org/web/20230530025152/http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/09/world/09fighter.html

It is totally justified because i am closeted racist, so who cares about women and children being murdered if they aren’t part of my group

This is such a tired response, I've already replied to it here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes the NYT, that bastion of truth regarding the Israelis.

Did they ever figure out who leaked all that?

They sure spent a lot of time trying to figure out who leaked it instead of actually strengthening their journalistic practices

[–] capital 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

We’ll ignore the fact that martyrdom is tightly intertwined with their religion.

They’re religious fanatics. Similar to US conservatives which I assume you’d have no problem criticizing.

Your reply doesn’t address my assessment of Hamas’ attitude toward their own citizens. It’s nice and snarky though and will do well here on Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So, this comes down to trusting NYT reporting, something they have shown they are not capable of deserving.

Hummus are terrorists, fuck them and I hope that anyone involved in terroristic activities dies in pain.

I like how you completely ignored everything I said though.

[–] capital 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You didn't say shit. You conveyed your distrust of NYT.

I guess we only have the EU to reference here too: https://www.voanews.com/a/eu-condemns-hamas-for-using-civilians-at-gaza-hospitals-as-human-shields-/7353026.html

Should I find more?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Doesn’t VoA stand for voice of America?

[–] capital 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Again, you're overly concerned with the source rather than the content. Do you think VOA is making up an EU condemnation?

That can't be because anyone who thinks that would simply open another tab in their browser and look for a different source which may corroborate this one.

So you just want to be obtuse. Literally nothing I say will convince you. Considering that, I think we're done here.

For anyone else reading the thread: https://apnews.com/article/european-union-condemn-hamas-human-shields-2c0d1c04cb38fc4acce37d8d624e1a3f

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

There you go! A source that is not a state owned media by the US you r one that has not already been tainted by showing a clearly Israeli bias and then trying to cover up and exterminate the leaks.

We all know that they are using human shields, they are complete and total bastards.

That still does not make it okay for that ratio.

I can accept that there will be a ratio, there’s no helping that but 1 adult for 5 children is too high.

That is using the lowest number I have seen and only addressing children.

Would you be okay with 5 kids dying to save you?