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[–] dohpaz42 49 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (21 children)

Remember kids, God is all-powerful, all-knowing, and created EVERYTHING; including evil and suffering.

This means that God created evil, knowing full well what that meant for us humans. He knew Adam was going to eat the apple, and lie to him about it, but still got angry that he was lied to; so angry that he damned the rest of humanity as punishment.

So if God created evil, and knew what that would do for all of humanity, and it was a part of his great plan to do so, then God must also be evil.

You can’t have it both ways. He can’t be good and not evil if he created evil. He also lets it happen. He can’t be good and not evil if he knows every mistake we will make, and knowing the impact of our mistakes (i.e., the other people it affects). This makes God culpable for our sins, yet he is not held accountable for his inaction.

[–] Pirasp 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, anyone who says god is all powerful and all knowing clearly hasn't read the Bible. There is a clear character arc there, and that's absolutely incompatible with those two assumptions.

I man, look at the whole Jesus thing! He makes himself human to see why the humans can't be good, he does retain at least some of his godly powers in human form tho. Even as God made human he has outbursts of rage and is at least at one time incredibly inconsiderate to his parents. Clear character faults if you ask me. At the end he is like "shit was hard man, goddamn!" and changes toe policy for going to heaven completely.

[–] dohpaz42 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Don’t forget how he raped a child to impregnate her, thus also committing adultery and breaking one of his own commandments at the same time, just so he could send his “only begotten son” to die, just to effectively give up and never return.

[–] Pirasp -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Not enough info to meaningfully talk about rape imho, and the 'son' thing is a bit complicated. Probably more correctly described as a kind of aspect?

[–] KillerTofu 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So like conservatives in ‘Merica he just makes a woman have a child by sheer force of will. No rape involved!

[–] Pirasp -4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Rape means no consent, has nothing to do with the unconventional way of conception. The entire passage is so imprecisely written, that I don't think you can for sure say it would have been rape.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Well power impacts consent.. can you really fully consent to an all powerful being when there's a chance they might destroy your life for refusing?

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