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““If we jail Trump, get rid of Maga, end the electoral college, ban voter ID, censor free speech, we’ll save democracy,” says one meme in a QAnon channel on Telegram that depicts Biden in a Nazi uniform with a Hitler mustache”

Apparently they at least understand their opponent’s view .

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[–] Passerby6497 20 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The other 30% are criminally stupid Americans who either want fascism or are too dumb to see how their actions promote the end goals that they pretend to fight against.

I've seen more than a few with post histories that legitimately make them look like they oppose fascism, but GeNoCiDe JoE makes them help the other team light a fire in the engine of the fascism train.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

too dumb to see how their actions promote the end goals that they pretend to fight against.

GeNoCiDe JoE

The irony here is palpable.

[–] Passerby6497 12 points 5 months ago

If you're holding your nose in November like I am, I have no problem with you. But if that's your single issue, know that the alternative is much worse. For the sake of harm reduction, it's better to vote blue and stem the bleeding with someone who might bend to pressure vs the alternate option of 'finish the job' who wont.

If that's your single issue and you vote third party, that's the behavior I'm calling out, because like it or not, our system has only 2 parties that remotely have a chance in November. They're lining up behind a convicted felon who wants to bomb Palestine harder and all the shit that's in project 2025 while we argue and promote accelerationist behaviors to punish or try to make the party 'learn it's lesson' when history shows they only ever move right in response to losing the left.

I fucking hate that I have to vote Biden again, but I understand electoral politics and know that accelerationist stances only harm the most vulnerable among us. Harm reduction sometimes involves doing things you find objectionable because the only other option is magnitudes worse. Biden sucks in a lot of ways, but he can somewhat be reasoned with and doesn't want to take away my family members' basic human rights.

It's a shit choice, but life is full of shit choices. And more often than not, not playing the game defaults you to the worse option.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Hey look it's the comrade we're talking about

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago

It's quite funny how the rhetoric has devolved to the point where comments like yours are almost indistinguishable from MAGA supporters who talk about people being "paid by Soros" all because I don't support funding and arming people in their pursuit of genocide.