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Antiwork/Work Reform

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A community for those who want to end work, are curious about ending work, want to get the most out of a work-free life, want more information on anti-work ideas and want personal help with their own jobs/work-related struggles.

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Subscribers: 2.9k

Date Created: June 15, 2023

Date Updated: July 17, 2023

Library copied from reddit:
The Anti-Work Library 📚
Essential Reads

Start here! These are probably the most talked-about essays on the topic.

c/Antiwork Rules

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1. Server Main Rules

The main rules of the server will be enforced stringently. https://lemmy.fmhy.ml/

2. No spam or reposts + limit off topic comments

Spamming posts will be removed. Reposts will be removed with the exception of a repost becoming the main hub for discussion on that topic.

Off topic comments that do not pertain to the post at hand may be removed if it is deemed they contribute nothing and/or foster hostility at users. This mostly applies to political and religious debate, but can be applied to other things at the mod’s discretion.

3. Post must have Antiwork/ Work Reform explicitly involved

Post must have Antiwork/Work Reform explicitly involved in some capacity. This can be talking about antiwork, work reform, laws, and ext.

4. Educate don’t attack

No mocking, demeaning, flamebaiting, purposeful antagonizing, trolling, hateful language, false accusation or allegation, or backseat moderating is allowed. Don’t resort to ad hominem attacks against another user or insult other people, examples of violations would be going after the person rather than the stance they take.

If we feel the comment is uncalled for we will remove it. Stay civil and there won’t be problems.

5. No Advertising

Under no circumstance are you allowed to promote or advertise any product or service

6. No factually misleading informationContent that makes claims or implications that can be proven false or misleading will be removed.

7. Headlines

If the title of the post isn’t an original title of the article then the first thing in the body of the post should be an original title written in this format “Original title: {title here}”.

8. Staff Discretion

Staff can take disciplinary action on offenses not listed in the rules when a community member's actions or general conduct creates a negative experience for another player and/or the community.

It is impossible to list every example or variation of the rules. It is also impossible to word everything perfectly. Players are expected to understand the intent of the rules and not attempt to "toe the line" or use loopholes to get around the intent of the rule.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think that I will maybe stay as a head mod just in case and will just respond to repots and such. But I don't see myself as a person capable of steering the community in the right direction because I don't have any deep knowledge about how society works. All I know is that the current society is not a good place for non-capitalists (people that don't own assets that generate money). I just want for the world to be a better place for everyone, this is why I created [email protected], [email protected] and [email protected]. I'm still going to actively work on the other 2 subs but [email protected] is something beyond my capabilities. I'm still very happy that I managed to create this community and kicksart it. If it goes actually mainstream I will even be in a postiton where I could brag that I'm the one that started it here. Something like that doesn't happen often haha.

But I'm totally going to still post there, even if I step down.

[–] Botree 7 points 1 year ago

Here's a gold for your honesty 🏅

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Definitely don't step down.

There's far too many stray voices trying to influence this kind of community - you only have to look at reddit's r/antiwork, where after one of their mods made a tit of themselves on Fox News, one of the users made r/workreform. r/workreform had 500,000 new users in a day, and then reddit admin forced the mod of that sub adopt their chosen powermods - they wouldn't let him hold votes to elect mods from within the community. Said powermods convinced the founding mod to give them full power, after which they kicked him out and told him r/workreform was "now part of [their] projects, we thought you understood that". He then went on to make r/workers_revolt but lost the all momentum he'd made with his sub.

Hold onto your community. It's yours. If someone else wants to make their own community to deliver their message, they should make their own community, not take over yours and leech all its subscribers.

I'd be happy to assist with some moderation if you want. Either with this account, or with my alts on other instances - in particular kbin replies here seem to be somewhat isolated from the true federated conversation.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Holy shit! I didn't know about all that stuff that happened to work reform. I think that it may be better for me to stay and watch over actions of mods who will be maintaining the community instead of throwing all that responsibility on the admins of the instance.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yeah there was a sticky post detailing all of it on r/workers_revolt, but like I say it all got swept under the rug. Obviously, the creator/mod had some culpability, because they gave full admin to someone else, but still. Also, the new mods of r/workreform banned people for talking about it.

Edit: If you scroll down to the first posts on r/work_reform you can see some stuff about it, but most of the main posts and their allegations were removed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I managed to ~~think~~ find this copy of a post that he made. I don't think that I should ask him to be a mod there. You mentioned that he later decided to create "workers revolt" so maybe he changes his mind, idk. The copy:

Hey everyone, I know this might disappoint some of you all, but I've decided to give up moderation.

This shit is too stressful, I had to call work and take some days off, and in return I got absolutely nothing. Moderating this sub has literally cost me money. I don't see how being in this position is going to benefit me in my life, ever.

When I created r/WorkReform I did NOT expect it to explode to near 500k members. This shit is giganormous and I simply do not have the qualifications to keep on going at this stage, there's too much to learn in such a small time frame that is being forced down my throat by the admins.

I spent countless and countless hours trying to filter out the posts, comments, modmail, and all that, but seriously it's just too exhausting. Oh and that's without taking into consideration all the death threats I've been getting and all the fucking cringers scrutinizing my entire life and doxxing me all around reddit.

Also, thanks to reddit admins for pressuring me out of this position. I had the intention of appointing moderators democratically but they pretty much are forcing us to appoint mods today and I refuse to go against the principles that I promised the community that I'd be doing. Huge fucking let down and I apologize for it.

Anyway, now I can go back to my normal life I guess. It was definitely a wild ride. Thanks to everyone who has been supportive of me, I will forever remember you. I'm still gonna be around, just not as a mod. Y'all take care, this movement is never going to die.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Tbh I could be wrong about him starting workers_revolt, however it certainly was the case that he was pushed out by admin in favour of powermods.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Did you see my other comment?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yooo, do you think if I should appoint the creator of "work reform" and "workers revolt" as a mod of this community? I don't know if he's on this platform but from what I see the closed down their "workers revolt" sub because of reddit fuckups:

Unlike various 'pro-worker' communities that have failed this extremely basic litmus test (why?), Workers Revolt has gone private indefinitely in solidarity with the site-wide protest against Reddit Inc's mistreatment of its community, volunteer moderators, and third-party applications. See /r/ModCoord for more information. We may not come back. Reddit is not a safe platform for workers' rights, as demonstrated by its behavior towards its employees, users, and pro-labor community.

I don't know much about him though, is he a good enough person to contact him and ask him to be a mod there?