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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/1874605

A 17-year-old from Nebraska and her mother are facing criminal charges including performing an illegal abortion and concealing a dead body after police obtained the pair’s private chat history from Facebook, court documents published by Motherboard show.

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Regardless of what you think about abortion laws people just gotta come to terms with the fact that your phone and computer are not reliable partners in crime

[–] whofearsthenight 56 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They should be? I mean, not just for the crime, but in general privacy should be the default.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I mean yeah it should but you gotta follow the old saying "don't write when you can speak, don't speak when you can nod, don't nod if you can wink" or whatever. You have an expectation of privacy when sending physical mail for example, but it's still a bad idea to put a crime in writing if you don't have to. Even if it can't legally be used as evidence it can be read. We've seen that with 'parallel construction' from law enforcement

[–] MiddleWeigh 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've actually never heard that saying. I like it a lot.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's one of those quotes with a lot of different versions floating around I think it's generally attributed to this guy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Lomasney

[–] zuhayr 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm taking notes, Jim. I just can't write any faster!

[–] Gabu 1 points 1 year ago

Wicked. A nod is as good as a wink to a blind bat

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The Klingons of Star Trek also have a saying: If you do not wish a thing heard, do not say it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It should be, I fully agree, unfortunately we live in a digital panopticon.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

You can always use something like PGP to encrypt your communication.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

True, sadly not many people show up for my key signing parties, even if I serve three kinds of chips.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Only if you trust the device your decrypting on. Wouldn't trust windows or Mac with information that could put me in jail.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Madcow -- While you are not wrong, we are talking about the unwashed masses here who are not necessarily savvy. "Private chat" really should have been.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can you link a source? That sounds concerning.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sorry, i don't find it anymore in all the white noise about france being anti encryption. It was about a group of teens being detained on the grounds of mere suspection for using and promoting encrypted messaging, online privacy, using tor and so on, painting that fact as a crime.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That's horrendous.

[–] Jarix 3 points 1 year ago

TIL the of the word Panopticon. Thanks stranger