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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

depends on context of what youre trying to do. just because it has failed once means its failed in the history of all games.

take for a old major game for example that is one of the progenitors of microtransactions maplestory. back in 2020/2021, nexon in Korea did some underhand shit, and whales in the game collectively created a round table to demand changes to the game and succeeded. result of all the underhanded shit caused a 9 million dollar lawsuit and fundamentally changed aspects of the game. On the Global server, a user was about to hit level 300 (the current cap) and the company advertised his stream, instead of hitting 300, he spent 45 minutes ranting about how broken the game is, then logged off without leveling with a 20k viewership on twitch. 2 days ago they push out a notice adressing that they are trying to change a lot of the longstanding problems that the rant adresses directly.

never say it never works, but it can, but doesnt always work.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I understand what you’re saying but there will never not be mtx in games. Even if these guys are getting raked over the coals the only lesson being taken away is to nickle and dime you slower.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

but thats when youre trying to have a situation where decisions are binary. the idea of binary sides is what causes defeatist attitude for change when things arent binary. Just because mtx wont go away doesnt mean you should stop trying to make it less worse than it is.

an example is the movement to 70$ games. we well all agree that its eventually going to happen, but it doesnt stop that you can make it less worse now as in the past year, several back to back viral games werent AAA priced titles.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I’m not a defeatist, I’m just wondering if this battle is worth making a stand at when in order to change the gaming industry you first have to change the nature of industry itself. At what point do you stop trying to save the Titanic and start drawing plans for the Titanic II?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

its why you choose your battles, some are much more reasonable than others.

for instamce the battle for Sony trying to get pc players to buy consoles to play the sequel i already know the outcome and is a pointless fight, as a majority of PC players arent going to buy a console to play a sequel of a title that they liked. people didnt rush to go out and buy a ps5 to play god of war ragnarok, nor FF16, nor FF7 rebirth, nor cave to play Ghost of Tsushima, nor Horizon Forbidden West.

the situation with Sony login requirement is definitely something that is challengeable and not a lost cause.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago

Not every drop of orange juice is worth the squeeze.

You’re right. But it’s not a question of buying consoles, it’s a matter of creating a free account. The majority of people have been conditioned to do so all their lives they won’t question another. If you really want to make a difference choose better battles, how about going after the system that allowed this problem to exist in the first place instead of getting caught up trying to put out the symptoms.