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[–] TragicNotCute -3 points 6 months ago (16 children)

I know that the food I eat feels pain. I don’t feel good about it, but that’s definitely the reality.

Don’t plants feel pain too though? I really believe that all consumption creates pain. Perhaps animal suffering is more real or important than plant suffering, but I don’t love that I can’t eat without killing something else.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

[–] The2b 22 points 6 months ago (2 children)

No, plants do not feel pain. They do not have a nervous system, they do not have consciousness, etc.

Even if they did, that's still an argument for veganism. Where do you think animals get the energy they store in their bodies? They don't absorb it from the sun. They eat plants, use some of that energy sustaining their life, then you eat them and absorb some of what's left. Anywhere from 1/4 to 1/10th of the energy they originally consumed. Meaning if you are looking to minimize suffering, regardless of whether or not plants feel pain (which they don't), eating plants directly is how you do that.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

But have you considered this? "bacon"... vegoon owned... my genius shocks me sometimes

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I wish I had enough b12 to be this smart 😔

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Did you know that b12 feels pain too?

[–] TragicNotCute 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Maybe not, but we don’t know for sure

We do not know if plants are capable of subjective sensation. There is no scientific proof that plants feel pain. But it is also quite clear that we cannot simply rule this out. There is circumstantial evidence for this, although not a complete chain of evidence.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2634081/

And to be clear, I’m a shitty human because I eat meat. I’m not arguing for my lifestyle. Just having a related conversation.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

We are as sure of plants not feeling pain as we are of rocks not feeling pain.

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