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[–] trollbearpig 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Look man. If I go and read the linux kernel code (for example), and then go and program my own closed source kernel (assuming I was good enough for that lol), and then my kernel becomes popular (it's ok to dream right?) then any lawyer worth it's salary will sue me because my beatifull kernel is not a clean room implementation. In practice it's almost impossible to prove, unless I go and tell everyone I was reading the linux kernel hahaha. But for LLMs there is nothing to prove, they did "read" the code (or rarther are indexing the code ...). So yes dude, this would be plagiarism for a human too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

what you're talking about is copyright infringement.

[–] trollbearpig 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Lol, ok dude. Then they are rampant copyright infringement machines dude ... Nice argument lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] trollbearpig 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure you are just trolling. But if you really want to learn about the topic go read what fair use is and isn't, or ask a lawyer. Fair use is much, much limited than you people think it is. Even memes and gameplay videos fall short of fair use most of the time, it's just that everyone looks the other way. This shows that copyright laws are a mess hahaha, but that's another topic.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

calling me a troll doesn't change whether what i've said is true. my position has remained consistent the entire time, while you have continually ceded ground.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

saying "go read" is not evidence. i know exactly what fair use is, and i'm telling you that LLM's use is fair use.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

plagiarism is an academic "crime". you couldn't simply cite your sources and aleviate accusations of copyright infringement, but you could with plagiarism. plagiarism is a total nonissue to me, even in the academy. there are much bigger things to worry about than the citations page.