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The US is thinking about letting Ukraine use its weapons to strike Russia, even if it enrages Putin: report (www.businessinsider.com)

submitted 7 months ago by MicroWave to c/world

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US officials are considering letting Ukraine strike Russia with US weapons, The New York Times reports.
Ukraine says it's necessary to fight cross-border attacks.
But fears of crossing Russia's red lines have long made the US hesitate.

The US has barred Ukraine from striking targets in Russian territory with its arsenal of US weapons.

But that may be about to change. The New York Times on Thursday reported that US officials were debating rolling back the rule, which Ukraine has argued severely hampers its ability to defend itself.

The proposed U-turn came after Russia placed weapons across the border from northeastern Ukraine and directed them at Kharkiv, the Times reported, noting that Ukraine would be able to use only non-American drones to hit back.

The Times reported that the proposal was still being debated and had yet to be formally proposed to President Joe Biden.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 7 months ago (3 children)

The same reason most of NATO have been very hesitant and the like:

Supporting a defensive war is one thing. Supporting an offensive war, against a nuclear power that threatens to nuke people on days ending in 'y', is another. And while it is incredibly unlikely that putin would actually attack anyone (since they can't even handle a Ukraine with one arm tied behind its back), it will still lead to political turmoil as people insist the world is about to end.

But now? This is a REAL good way to distract people from the other, much less defensive, war that we are financing.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I never understand this logic. The war is still defensive regardless where the targets are.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

That is the same kind of mess that made the no fly zone so untenable.

But to the eyes of a public who are not sure if they are more afraid of World War 3 or Iraq War 3? Having that line of "We are only helping Ukraine to defend themselves, not to escalate this war" "works".

And if it sounds like we don't actually care about the Ukrainian people and just view them as a tool to keep Russia busy?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 1 points 6 months ago

And while it is incredibly unlikely that putin would actually attack anyone

I think it is highly likely that if NATO ordered an airstrike out of Finland or Estonia or Turkyie, Russia would retaliate into a US/UK/French military base with equivalent force.

If NATO put tanks into Latvia and sent them across the border, I have no doubt Russia would send matched forces with the intention of pushing back into Latvia.

And because Russia is closer to Latvia, Estonia, Turkyie, and Finland than the US, that gives them a decive advantage.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

How is it an offensive war if they're still fighting on Ukrainian soil? I haven't seen anyone propose invading Russia itself.