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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/15863526

Steven Anderegg allegedly used the Stable Diffusion AI model to generate photos; if convicted, he could face up to 70 years in prison

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[–] PoliticalAgitator 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Material showing a child being sexually abused is child sexual abuse material.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And an AI generated image does not show a child being abused

[–] PoliticalAgitator 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There is no child being abused by a generated image or a drawing.

[–] PoliticalAgitator 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

If Paedophile Hill is the hill you want to die on, it's no loss to me, so I've got zero interest in your "Ceci n'est pas une child rape" defense.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

And yet you still engaged with it. If we're gonna classify every picture/drawing/gen that makes people uncomfortable as CSAM it distracts from the actual CSAM that is running rampant

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Seems alot like your just promoting CSAM at that point.

Im sure that will have absolutely no effect on the pedophiles who are attracted to children acting on their desires. /s

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It distracts from the very real issue of actual CSAM being produced and spread by pieces of shit like the guy in the article. Instead, people are going to focus on the guy using stable diffusion to generate images that are not the result of actual abuse. Its exactly what companies like OpenAI and Microsoft want, demonization of the open source AI projects. And you and many others in this thread are falling for it.

[–] PoliticalAgitator 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh yeah, opposition to videos showing the graphic rape of children is all just a big tech conspiracy. Fuck off scumbag.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're literally just making shit up to be offended about now

[–] PoliticalAgitator 1 points 1 month ago

Take your pills.

[–] PoliticalAgitator 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I'm not engaging for your benefit, which is why I've got no interest in repeating the same point in 500 ways in the hope it sinks in. But the reality is that a lot of people get their opinions from social media and they sure as fuck shouldn't imitate your views on CSAM so it's important that nobody mistakes contrarianism and apologism for actual wisdom.

But yes, it is hard to stand by while you lie your little heart in a way that helps paedophiles. I'm not ashamed or embarrassed about that.

So here's how it will play out: Your bullshit apologism and enabling will result in the creation of platforms for circulating child pornography. This platform will immediately be flooded with pictures and videos of children being raped that are indistinguishable from "genuine" child pornography, thanks to models being trained on paedophiles back catalogue.

As the amount of content grows, more and more videos of actual children being raped will enter circulation, with moderators and paedophile wriggling out of it by claiming "I thought it was AI generated".

New videos featuring the rape of actual children will be created and posted to these communities as child pornography normalises the abuse of children for the members. Detection and prosecution of the people responsible being functionally impossible because they've been buried and obfuscated by the AI generated content you insist doesn't count.

But hey, at least your bullshit semantic sensibilities haven't been offended right? That seems way more important to you than the abuse of children anyway. You're basically a hero for selflessly safeguarding paedophiles jerk off material.

We're not talking about "drawings of children being raped that make people uncomfortable". We're talking about pictures and videos that are indistinguishable from reality, featuring children being coereced or forced into performing every act and fetish known to pornography.

And you fucking know it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There are no pictures or videos generated by AI that are indistinguishable from real CSAM because real CSAM requires a child to be abused to create.

All of those things you mention already happen all over social media.

[–] PoliticalAgitator 1 points 1 month ago

You're getting even less plausible but still desperately clinging to flawed rhetoric that only benefits paedophiles.