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[–] alvendam 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I've wondered for a long time - why don't more Americans come study in the EU? We get people from all over the world, but so few Americans and with some of the prices I read about y'all paying at home, you could be happily renting a small apartment, pay your tuition entirely out of pocket, as you'd need to, feed yourself well, fly back home once a year and still not approach the semestral costs in the US. Are our diplomas not recognised across the ocean or is there another reason.

[–] problematicPanther 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

that's a good question, and I wish that it had occurred to me. I think that it sounds too expensive to most americans. We think of cost of tuition in cost per credit hour, not per semester, so when you say "tuition is only 500", we might think that it's 500 per hour, or about 1500 per class. which is about what one would expect to pay at a university in the states.

Also the language aspect is hard. Americans aren't brought up to be bilingual, so doing a bachelor program in another language might be exceedingly difficult.

However, you might not want the American university students to come over to Europe. They are exactly as bad as they are portrayed in movies.

[–] alvendam 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I think that it sounds too expensive to most americans. We think of cost of tuition in cost per credit hour, not per semester, so when you say "tuition is only 500", we might think that it's 500 per hour, or about 1500 per class. which is about what one would expect to pay at a university in the states.

Oh my... God no! Ahahahah

Most of us don't even find out how many EC-whatever credits we need to graduate before we enroll. Pretty sure It's different, depending on the specialty you're going for and largely irrelevant. I don't have my student's book on me rn, but I'm also pretty sure that I've only got two or three teachers so far (second year, but I've tried two other bachelor programs before that) who've bothered writing in my hours. When people talk tuition, it's almost always per semester. You need to keep in mind though, that most of us study on government subsidy if we study in a domestic university (or abroad with Erasmus). The subsidy is different everywhere. E.g I pay 225 Euro per semester, meanwhile somebody from another country would need to pay something like 1600. I'm in agronomy. My uni also teaches veterinary medicine and those guys pay a little more than us. About 270/1700€ subs/oop. Still, it's apparently a great deal to the absolute shit ton of Greeks who come to become veterinarians here. See - in Greece, subsidised education is entirely free, but it's ultra competitive and apparently paying out of pocket in Bulgaria is significantly cheaper than doing so in Greece for a comparable education and a diploma that's recognised back home.

Also the language aspect is hard. Americans aren't brought up to be bilingual, so doing a bachelor program in another language might be exceedingly difficult.

If your pick of uni doesn't have the option to teach your major of choice entirely in English (and plenty do have it), you will be put in language classes as part of your curriculum, starting from the A and B.

However, you might not want the American university students to come over to Europe. They are exactly as bad as they are portrayed in movies.

Lol, I wouldn't know, but if they're really like the frat boys and girls in the movies, bringing them over to the Balkans makes them liable to die if alcohol poisoning on day 3.