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just wanted to ask this bc lemmy supposedly has public upvotes/downvotes and I don't know if kbin has it too

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Public. But on my instance they are private. And a lot more improvements.

More -> Activity shows who boosted.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I quite like them being public.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same. I also like how they don't push comments down the page.

People are going to use it as a disagree button, let them do it publicly. If you don't want other people to know you downvoted something, it's probably because they made a good point that you don't like.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I agree with this. I think if you don't agree but don't feel so strongly to let others know you disagree, just skip voting.

With that being said, something people should consider are the bad-faith actors who will track communities and harass individuals who engage in downvoting -- this is something that will indeed be a problem for more hot button issues or politically motivated posting.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't that privacy more illusory than actual? You're not surfacing the web pages which show the votes, but the protocol is openly sharing that info and anybody can still see what your instance's users have voted on just by looking at them from a different instance. I'm not going to out anybody, but it was trivial for me to find that thread here on kbin.social and see exactly who upvoted it, including a kglitch.social user.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes.

But downvotes, the only really drama-causing aspect of this, are not federated so won't be visible from another instance.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Frankly i'd prefer all of it to be private, but there's merit to both sides.

re:drama-causing, i'm also removing downvotes from my instance in dev for the same reason. I do think some version of muting has value, though - but kinda feels like it should be a tool earned, similar to HackerNews (they have downvotes, but only after a certain amount of earned "karma").

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Downvotes are not federaded on your instance or on kbin in general or even on AcitivityPub in general?

Cause that would look like an probably little known factor for choosing an instance.