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Nato’s failure to save Ukraine raises an existential question: what on earth is it for? (www.theguardian.com)

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Again, NATO's only purposes are to defend its member countries if any of them gets directly attacked or very exceptionally to enforce UN Security Council Resolutions. That narrow scope creates some issues but it's also a big factor in avoiding a nuclear war.

Pretending that NATO is or should be more than that is only helping Putin.

[+] [email protected] -8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

@jmcs @trajekolus yes and no. The perception is otherwise. The perception is an alliance of western values and democracy. And as we all Know perception is reality. So, yes, #nato sucks. There was no natural law of physics that denied the circling of F35, rafale or Tornados over Kharkiv 230222. None.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

What happens if Russian air defenses or jet fires on the F35? Does NATO fire back? Where to stop? Moscow? There's no way that Russia wouldn't use nukes in that scenario.

Maybe a limited operation where Russia's air defenses couldn't reach would be possible, but so close to the front is not going to happen unless Russia does something stupid like attacking NATO directly.