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[–] Kyrgizion 57 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Let's still not ban it though. I mean, it IS banned now, but also not. And the fact that massive insect populations started wholesale disappearing and never coming back - something even poison like DDT couldn't pull off- after introduction of glyphosate is surely wholly irrelevant in this discourse anyway.

[–] shalafi 45 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

The decline of insects is the scariest thing I've seen in life, and I mean that. We kicked the bottom out of the food chain. It's hard to state what I experienced as a child 40-50 years ago vs. now.

In just 3 years I've seen the insect population tank at my camp. My camp in the swamp. Banana spiders were legion, there's still a few. The ground spiders are half what they were. Used to get a hummingbird now and again. Nothing has touched my feeders in 2 years. Further up the food chain, I see very little "higher" organisms. Nothing but squirrels, no other mammals. And that's only 3 years.

Hell, my front porch is turning into a wasteland, and that's on the bleeding edge of town, surrounded by country. Used to get as many a 5 tree frogs at a time, 0 now. 4-5 hummingbirds every year, now I rarely see 1. My porch lights used to be covered in dead bugs, pretty clean now and I haven't touched them since last summer.

Young people have been robbed of a world they don't know existed. Robbed in ways that don't make headlines.

[–] Kyrgizion 23 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I'm pretty sure I'm literally among the last few people alive who have seen live fireflies in our own country. That was some 40 years ago and I still miss them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I actually saw firefly last summer and the year before flying around my neighborhood. I will say though, that I saw way less of the last year than the year before. It's made me wonder if I'll even see them at all this summer.

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