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[–] surewhynotlem 25 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It shows our failure as a species that most people don't understand that Machiavelli's most famous work was satire.

[–] something_random_tho 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

The Prince was certainly not satire. He wrote it to Lorenzo de Medici with the intention of being hired as his advisor. The entire book is specific instructions of how to rule for this very purpose. Of course he wasn't hired, since the book boils down to "be as duplicitous as you can be to get what you want."

[–] surewhynotlem 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"be as duplicitous as you can be to get what you want."

Ok, maybe I'm missing it then. I thought that made it obvious satire. Is this another Poe's law situation?

[–] something_random_tho 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No, Machiavelli sincerely argued for this kind of extreme pragmatism--do whatever's necessary to get what you want. It was wasn't satire. It's pretty obvious why he didn't get the job as advisor, though.

[–] surewhynotlem 6 points 6 months ago

Well shit. I got Poe'd by a dead man.