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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] Diplomjodler3 8 points 1 month ago (12 children)

I think we need more positive messaging on the whole thing. We're not just fighting climate change but make life more healthy and pleasant for everybody.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (7 children)

I think that message tends to not resonate well. e.g. in USA politics liberals tried that and conservatives freaked out, thinking that "those (out-of-group) people" might actually get some help, even in situations where "these (in-group) people" would have gotten more.

Hate and fear are more primal, and people are trying to get the message out to the widest possible audience.

[–] Diplomjodler3 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Do you take think trying to appeal to US "conservatives" in any way will do anything? These people are lost anyway.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Not likely. The problem is that you can only appeal to them in person. Any appeal made through the internet or the media will miss them completely. They self isolate in the media by only watching networks that confirm their bias against literally any climate activism and online there are algorithms that do it for them. When you do appeal to them in person, they attack you as a Soros-serving, leftist, liberal and declare that everything you tell them is fake news. They won't believe it until it affects them personally and even then they'll try to blame liberals for it while continuing to refuse to take positive action.

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