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Ergonomic, split and other weird keyboards

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Keep it ergo

Posts must be of/about keyboards that have a clear delineation between the left and right halves of the keyboard, column stagger, or both. This includes one-handed (one half doesn't exist, what clearer delineation is that!?)

i.e. no regular non-split¹ row-stagger and no non-split¹ ortholinear²

¹ split meaning a separation of the halves, whether fixed in place or entirely separate, both are fine.
² ortholinear meaning keys layed out in a grid

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Help me choose a keyboard (self.ergomechkeyboards)
submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by PeterPoopshit to c/ergomechkeyboards
 
 

I am in the market for a new keyboard. I really want something that is backlit, has a volume control and has the full layout with numpad. If I can't find something with those 3 features I'll just keep fighting with my shitty half working one because it's not that bad and there not being a better option will just motivate me into finding some new way to fix it probably. I kind of don't care if it's membrane or not, as long as it's not expensive. In my experience membrane keyboards last longer anyway.

There's a few cheapo options on Amazon that look promising but beyond that they only come with 2 out of 3 of the features I need. That's why I came here for advice.

I have a g910 thats old and starting to get all kinds of key bounce issues. I've replaced most of the switches and it's still doing it so it's either a circuit board issue or a chip issue.

Also, it's fucking bullshit that there's not a backlit mod for the ibm model m.

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Ergodash Build (mander.xyz)
submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by [email protected] to c/ergomechkeyboards
 
 

This was my first time soldering and it went pretty well. On booting it up the LEDs weren't working on one side and one key wasn't registering, a quick hit with the iron got it going fine.

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Hi everyone, we have been asked by our customers for a carrying case for our keyboards, but we haven't been able to offer that until now. I would like introduce you guys our new product:

https://ergomech.store/shop/leather-carrying-case-66

  • Handcrafted in our workshop by skilled artisans. Outstanding attention to detail and premium materials makes it a unique piece.
  • A personalized genuine leather case for your Ergonomic Keyboard, an ideal solution for securely transporting and safeguarding your keyboard. It is an excellent gift for co-workers, friends, or even yourself for any occasion.
  • Case size: 14 х 19 x 8.5 cm
  • Fit for: Sofle v2, Sofle RGB, Sofle Choc
  • Materials: Real Leather Case - Epsom Leather
  • Available Color: Navy
  • Made of highest quality genuine cowhides, which will last for years to come, and will stands up to heavy use.

Please check it out here: https://ergomech.store/shop/leather-carrying-case-66

We're currently running a discount event, all keyboard products are 20% off, Also we're having 5 free carrying case for 5 order larger than $300.

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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by DeltaWhy to c/ergomechkeyboards
 
 

Been daily driving low-profile Gateron switches for a while but wanted to give MX another shot. Mostly so I can use my nice keycaps again. I didn't buy this filament specifically for this build but I think it works really nicely.

Switches are Ergo Clears, lubed and filmed with (IIRC) 45g springs. They were previously on an Ergodox and barely got any use as I switched to smaller boards shortly after modding them and wasn't comfortable with desoldering yet, so I'm happy to have finally found a new home for them.

Caps are MT3 Godspeed, case is Overture Matte PLA (light blue and white), printed on the Sovol SV06 Plus.

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Sofle Keyboard without rotaries? (self.ergomechkeyboards)
submitted 11 months ago by loo to c/ergomechkeyboards
 
 

I have a Lily58, but I would love having two thumb buttons and overall 2-4 buttons more. The Sofle V2 seems like a really good choice, but I have no use for the rotaries. Is there a way to replace the rotaries with normal switches or are there other spilt keyboards similar to the Sofle V2, but without rotary encoders?

Thanks for any suggestions!

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Working as a developer, I spend quite some time in front of my keyboard. So after years of lurking and checking out keebs, I am finally typing these sentences on my first mechanical keyboard - a Mistel Barocco MD770 RGB BT Glaze Blue ANSI. I want to use this post to share some of my thoughts and experienc, to maybe help others along their path.

Layout:

  • being from Europe, I am used to ISO layouts (ISO-DE to be precise). The reason I went for ANSI is the general availability of keebs and caps + the layout might be nice for developing. And so far I love it! Apart from the Umlauts, everything feels nicer to reach and within 1-2 weeks I managed to get somewhat used to it (for the Umlauts I use a custom MacOS layout, which makes them available via Alt combinations). Might never be as fast on normal german text, but spamming CTRL+Z with one hand already makes up for that.
  • split is awesome! No regrets here, although it had me work on my touchtyping again!
  • TKL is not a problem so far, although I don’t do much number stuff

Keyboard itself:

  • love the clean look and everything feels pretty solid
  • I am missing a tilt option. The keyboard comes with some feet you can screw on, but e.g. Keychron flip out feet look way nicer an easier to use
  • wristrest is a must for me! The one on the photo was made by myself (and yes, I made it symetric on the first try. Couldn’t bear it, so I had to saw it apart and re-glue it)
  • there is no extra B. Before then, I didn’t know that I was using the wrong hand to type it.

Software:

  • no GUI/software for the computer. I am fine without, but would have been nice and easier to configure the board

All in all, I am happy to finally have made a move and I am looking forward to typing on the board every day. It is a very nice first keyboard to me, but looking at ortho layouts I am afraid it’s not the last.

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Hi folks,

A while back, I released the flow MX36 and was working on a companion keyboard with choc keys. I've been using it for around 6 months but I haven't released it for a few reasons. I thought that I'd provide an update just for fun. Below are the outstanding errata items:

  • in an effort to minimize finger movement, I jammed the keys as close as I could. As a result, unfortunately it only works with Asymplex ChicagoSteno's...which I love btw.
  • after using it for a while, I want to squish the col-col spacing.I initially liked some space between the cols, but now I want to try a squished version.
  • I haven't confirmed that both sides work with the choc amoebas. I've built up the trackball side with amoebas but I don't know if the other side works with amoebas, i.e. has no internal interference.

So why is it taking so long? Well, my personal motivation is taking a backseat for other aspects of life...namely my kids and reading books.

Anyway, below are some pics. Happy typing!

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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by wylderbuilds to c/ergomechkeyboards
 
 

Hello, all. Lots of stuff going on here.

These pictures aren't full builds, obviously. Rather, they're trial prints of some standard dactyl manuform models I plan to offer. They'll be available as kits and for full builds at a solidly lower price point than our fully custom builds. I want to make manuforms with a nice selection of bells and whistles more generally affordable.

So, I'd like to gauge the thoughts of folks on here and see what features as standard make the most sense.

That's a 6x7 in the main image, but I'm also planning a 3x6:

A 3x6

And a 5x6:

And a 5x6

My current plan is that they include by default:

A. One trackball with regular pointer and dragscroll modes. Can choose left side or right side.

B. One rotary encoder above the trackball set as volume control and mute on base layer and page up/page down on other layers.

C. One OLED screen on the non-trackball side displaying current keymap layer, active mod keys, mouse mode, and words-per-minute.

D. Pi Pico or other rp2040 controllers.

E. USB-C cabling all around.

F. QMK firmware with Vial support for editing the keymaps, layers, and other features on the fly.

As a base set of features, how do those sound to folks?

Outstanding bits I'm still debating:

A. Are there other sizes missing here that you'd all rather see? 3x5? 4x6? 6x6?

B. Hot swap support always or hand-wired switches? If hard-wired, what selection of switches and keycaps would you like to see? I know that's an insane question as the options are endless. The point here is lower cost, though, not high end. I want to offer whole-package builds, ready to plug in and start typing, and forgoing hot swap would save on overall cost and build time.

C. Wireless? ZMK firmware is coming on strong and I'm doing quite a few wireless builds these days. It would add to price considerably, though.

D. Any other features? Other firmwares? Other controllers or hardware?

Would love to hear any and all thoughts.

And, of course, here's the plug for the store:

There's still slots to get a full build at 10% off! Just use discount code WYLD_BUNCH at checkout.

https://wylderbuilds.com/shop/p/dactyl-manuform-build

Also, I have DOZENS of old stock prints. Test prints. Prints with the wrong features or sizing. And, of course, prints with slight failures or cosmetic issues. Since dactyl manuforms are such a departure for most people, I'm offering these halves at five bucks a pop (plus shipping) so anyone curious can actually throw switches on and get their hands on one to see how it feels. It'll be a random side and size, just specify if you want left or right ($5 each) or both ($9). If you get both, just know they're unlikely to match if we don't have a matching pair.

Hand Sizing Prints https://wylderbuilds.com/shop/p/hand-size-print

Cheers, thanks for another great year, and keep typing like a God!

Andy @ Wylderbuilds

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We in Vietnam celebrate the Lunar New Year and today mark the beginning of the last month of the year. To extend our gratitude towards the community, we'd like to offer 20% off for all keyboard orders. Also, we have 5 newly launched leather carrying bag for 5 order larger than $300 (first come first serve).

Please visit our website to check out: https://ergomech.store

Please note that your order will likely be shipped after the spring festival (approximately later half of February due to our leadtime as well as the holiday delay)

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Hi, we have been asked by our customers for a carrying case for our keyboards, but we haven't been able to offer that until now. I would like introduce you guys our new product:

https://ergomech.store/shop/leather-carrying-case-66

  • Handcrafted in our workshop by skilled artisans. Outstanding attention to detail and premium materials makes it a unique piece.
  • A personalized genuine leather case for your Ergonomic Keyboard, an ideal solution for securely transporting and safeguarding your keyboard. It is an excellent gift for co-workers, friends, or even yourself for any occasion.
  • Case size: 14 х 19 x 8.5 cm
  • Fit for: Sofle v2, Sofle RGB, Sofle Choc
  • Materials: Real Leather Case - Epsom Leather
  • Available Color: Navy
  • Made of highest quality genuine cowhides, which will last for years to come, and will stands up to heavy use.

Please check it out here: https://ergomech.store/shop/leather-carrying-case-66

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ZMK community spotlight series continues with a third installment -- and this one is a twofer! ZMK contributor Joel Spading wrote about ZMK Tools, a handy Visual Studio Code extension to ease working with ZMK configurations, and ZMK Locale Generator, a tool to help users that use non-US English keyboard locales in their operating systems.

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Hi - don't judge. This is my first mechanical keyboard and I'm playing around with something in budget that meets my needs as a beginner. I know it's not the best but I'm genuinely looking for help and knowledge here.

Yes, I know the allegations about the software/drivers for this keyboard being flagged as malware and have done research into this, though apparently not enough research. I downloaded what I thought was the driver for this keyboard but did not realize that it was a Via driver that broke the battery indicator and any possible connection to the (apparently terrible) software.

Would anyone have access to the original driver so I can roll the keyboard back to factory settings? The factory setting reset (function + esc 3 sec) doesn't roll back these changes. I tried to download one on Weiyun based on advice from the other site but everything is in Chinese and it does not seem to work.

Alternatively, does anyone know who I might contact to obtain this driver? I contacted the seller on AliExpress but they are spotty at best.

Many thanks in advance.

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Last year FAK inspired me to design the Miao as a cheap alternative to the Seeeduino Xiao line of MCU boards.

After some protoyping and redesigning it's now powering my Zilpzalp for the very first time, running a minimal FAK config!

And the best thing is, the more polished production version is available very cheaply at keeb.supply! (Not an affiliate link, I'm just excited :D)

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End game lol. Fun build, working great so far! ZMK is really nice

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Hey! Haven't written much lately as I've been chasing new crazy ideas. Many of which aren't seeing light just yet but soon TM!

Firstly, it's been a year. The business has survived! Even expanded. I can't take all the credit for that though. The support from the Ergo community trying my keyboards and pcbs has fueled many a long night of prototyping and development. Thank you all for the kind words, and general support!!!

I started selling flexible pcbs a little more than 12 months ago. Even back then people were happy with the time savings, but the version back then was so simple compared to the lofty goals I had. I think I've gotten quite a bit closer. There are some much more radical changes I'm going to be demoing here in the next couple of months but this solution right now is down right amazing.

I'm having a sale of all things and stuffs till sometime next year starting today!

https://thebigskree.etsy.com I need to finish work on my actual website to match Etsy. If you want Kinesis keyboard key swaps though www.skree.us is the place to go!

New products: The Skree Tail: this custom FPC cable takes some hints from Cyboards evolution of my flexible pcb design and improves on it.

Curved smooth traces, and edges. These help minimize breaks of the cable.

Tree style via routing. I've very specifically tried to place vias in ways that minimize any risk to the strength of the cable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCVJxFxteJ8&t=30s Sorry for the long winded video. I'm not so good at these things!

The skree tail can be cut to size. There are two current versions in 6 and 7 column lengths. No need to fold the cable over, or bend things to try and work on the left and right. The extra long connector to the MCU allows for the columns to be connected the same on both the left and right side of a case.

7 columns 6 rows, full RGB with only soldering required if you change a column length.

LEDs are supported with proper resistors for incoming data strings, and capacitors to ensure that there isn't issues with voltage delivery.

My flexible pcbs will now fully support choc v1 and choc v2 hotswap, and MX hotswap, and soon Gateron 'Low Profile' hotswap sockets too! All fully customizable in length.

I populate the pcbs in house! This means if you want a matrix that has different sized columns then message me and I'll build them to your specs, this saves you a little bit of money, time, and also saves materials if you care about the whole material waste thing!

But wait! I've figured that forcing people into using your own specific MCUs isn't really the best idea. While I have a RP2040 board in the works, as well as a nrf52840 module design that will supply something around 32 pins, alot of people want to work on THEIR equipment!

So I made the Skree Translator! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCVJxFxteJ8&t=188s)

This super cheap little daughter board allows for connection with JST-SH cables, or hand soldered with through-hole soldering! It translates your wired rows and columns to both my Skree Tail and flexible pcbs but also supports my Toe Beans FPC connection! with this you can have near zero to zero soldering required for connection to ANY MCU! Everything becomes simply plug and play.

I also have a Raspberry Pico breakout board that I designed for WylderBuilds https://wylderbuilds.etsy.com/ that provides USB-C instead of TRRS (though you can still wire it to a TRRS header with the JST-SH connector). Skree tail and thumbs support, RGB, and even SPI / I2C breakouts for trackballs, and oled connections! His boards are down right fantastic and knows his software stuff like no-one else!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCVJxFxteJ8&t=859s

Moving on, I've been making prototype after prototype of tenting and palm rest devices.

The Skree Perch, provides infinite fine adjustment for tenting any keyboard! The magnetic system allows for you to either imbed a metallic plate in your case base or stick it anywhere you want!With a customizable base profile, rubber anti-slip feet, and a phillips screwdriver you can tent your keyboard to any angle you'd want, while being highly rigid. Then fold the whole unit up and disconnect it from the base for ease of travel! All while costing less than traditional tenting mechanisms. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCVJxFxteJ8&t=1074s)

Palm rests are something I've been very cautious about regarding design. Often you'll see wrist rests used in ways that will likely cause further harm instead of doing their actual job. While I don't believe I've stumbled across the panacea, I've instead decided to support a variety of solutions that a user can pick to match their needs.

The Skree Bean solution provides either an adjustable via magnetic spacers, or a custom printed based on height and angle palm rest. Using memory foam instead of messy to clean up gel kidney bean rests, that are imbedded within the print instead of always falling out on the move.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCVJxFxteJ8&t=1161s

The Skree Tilt solution moves away from the standard common wrist rest and instead takes design characteristics from more professional solutions. The tilt angle of is based on the well loved Kinesis Advantage 2's tilt and slope.

It comes with customizable inserts too! Select from leather (horween cavalier series pull up leather) or custom die cut mousepad material that provides a fantastic level of squish without being too much like gel solutions. Also the Skree Tilt can be printed to match your keyboard height and tilt if you contact me with a model / stl!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCVJxFxteJ8&t=1232s

Here's a google Album of most of the crazy new designs and stuff I've gotten done! Some of it is likely not to see the light of day but most of it should be! https://photos.app.goo.gl/NMufeuVYKKPSKoJe9

The future:

Custom sublimation Keycaps. I know it's almost been a year, but I think I've figured out the printer issues! NOTE I think I can sublimate on clear!

Potentially crazy solution to not being able to make double shot keycaps for shine through. This will be shown off very soon!!!

Clear, and crazy cool resin cases!

Airbrushed cases! With all the cool colors that entails!

CNC? Yes. Wood? Yes! Soft metals? Skree! More? Shhhhhh soooon.

With the Skree pad (module powered keyboards, I'll have flat panel pcbs with the MCU tucked away so that there's no MCU bump, or a minimal bump)!

Wireless Trackballs? KMK has solved that issue! Expect to need bigger batteries but we're there boys and girls!

Stickers! The SO has been having fun figuring out stickers.

I know, this is silly long. I'm not very good at the whole writing, video recording, and explaining stuff. But my hardware designs work as expected and I'm here to support all my work with whatever ways I can!

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A year has passed and I've just now reviewed what we at Ergomech Store has accomplished this year, and I'm so surprised that we have done so many thing this past year:

  We launched our aluminum case line up for several products: Sofle v2, Sofle RGB, Lily58  

https://ergomech.store/shop/sofle-rgb-enclose-case-13#attr=69,70,72,74,76

https://ergomech.store/shop/sofle-v2-enclose-case-16#attr=99,297,101,102,103,279

https://ergomech.store/shop/lily58-enclose-case-15

  We launched a Sofle Choc revision that I think has he best features. (And an aluminum case along with it)  

https://ergomech.store/shop/sofle-choc-ergomech-store-revision-47

  We launched the Neodox, our re-imagination of the well knowned Redox  

https://ergomech.store/shop/neodox-52

  We designed and released a few PCB revision that helps with the wireless builds: https://github.com/ergomechstore/Corne-chocoflan

We designed and made quite a few custom designs based on the customer's requests (all of which received high customer satisfaction)  

Thank you very much for the community's continual support of our store.

We're still running a small sales event at https://Ergomech.store all items are 15% off (and if you visit my profile, there is a discount code that you can use on top of that).

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Instead of the shiny end-result I usually post for Wylderbuilds, I thought I'd post a build near the finish line. It's a dual trackball 3x6 Dactyl Manuform. The case is printed in black PETG and I'm using custom breakouts for Pi Pico controllers along with flexible PCBs on the columns (from The Big Skree,https://skree.us)

The trackball sensors are PMW3360s. I have a guide for setting them up with QMK here:

https://wylderbuilds.com/trackball-install

Also, of course, gotta plug that there's just TWO DAYS LEFT on our winter sale! Use discount code WYLDTIMEOFYEAR at checkout to get 25% off any order at wylderbuilds.com!

Gift Cards https://wylderbuilds.com/shop/p/gift-cards

Full Dactyl Manuform Builds https://wylderbuilds.com/shop/p/dactyl-manuform-build https://www.etsy.com/listing/1392490530/dactyl-manuform-keyboard-builds

PLA Case Prints https://wylderbuilds.com/shop/p/made-to-order-dactyl-manuform-cases https://www.etsy.com/listing/1196813412/custom-dactyl-manuform-cases

Resin Case Prints https://wylderbuilds.com/shop/p/dactyl-manuform-resin-print https://www.etsy.com/listing/1028152282/dactyl-manuform-resin-print-with

DIY Build Kit https://wylderbuilds.com/shop/p/manuform-diy-kit https://www.etsy.com/listing/1497924757/dactyl-manuform-build-kit

Happy Thocking Holidays!

Andy @ Wylderbuilds

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Wireless Chocofi (toast.ooo)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/ergomechkeyboards
 
 

Sourced from Beekeeb, using vanilla Miryoku for keymap, totally wireless with ZMK + MIP displays. Using MBK blanks and Choc Robins, with Netdot Gen 10 magnetic connectors for charging.

Compared to the Piantor, the innermost thumb buttons are a bit more offset but all thumbs seem to be closer which I prefer. Solid layout, may be my favorite.

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My first ever bulid and I'm so excited! It's not trivial to build a perfect keyboard just from parts you can order in Europe. This is one doesn't look exactly how I imagined it but I love it anyway. If anyone is interested - it's a Sofle Choc V3 kit from 42. Keebs.

The first few days were a bit hard but after just a week of using it I was able to beat my monkeytype high score. I'm still not really fluid in using it for programming and vim in general though.

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The second post of our community spotlight series is now up! This time we are highlighting the zmk-nodefree-config project by urob, which provides handy utilities for working with ZMK devicetree keymaps.

Also check out the first post in the series by Nick Coutsos at https://zmk.dev/blog/2023/11/09/keymap-editor if you haven't done so yet, especially if you prefer a more graphical approach to editing your ZMK keymaps.

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I recently purchased a klor from beekeeb, ready soldered :) excellent soldering job; in any case. I didn’t realise that the mcu would be exposed. So i was wondering if I should be worried. I don’t want to stick black electrical tape over it because it will get sticky. Wondering what i could do. Worried i move the keyboard one day with moisture on my fingers and then i get a short, which will be a sad day. Thanks.

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Way back in August, I published part 1 of my adventures with ergo mech keyboards, about my Keebio FoldKB. Now I've finally got part 2 done.

As of now, I have two more split ergo keyboards to write about, but I don't know if I'll ever actually catch up ...

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**OUR WINTER SALE GOING STRONG! **

Get 25% off any order with discount code: WYLDTIMEOFYEAR. Valid from now until midnight, December 24th.

**PLUS, we now offer gift cards! **Can't afford a Wylderbuilds keyboard yourself? Now you can get someone else to pay for it!!

https://wylderbuilds.com/shop/p/gift-cards

Full Builds https://wylderbuilds.com/shop/p/dactyl-manuform-build

PLA Case Prints https://wylderbuilds.com/shop/p/made-to-order-dactyl-manuform-cases

Resin Case Prints https://wylderbuilds.com/shop/p/dactyl-manuform-resin-print

DIY Build Kit https://wylderbuilds.com/shop/p/manuform-diy-kit

Cheers, and stay warm!

Andy @ Wylderbuilds

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  • a quick update from my post a few days back
  • this was the first iteration (very barebones to check on fitting)
  • everything up and running (QMK made the firmware incredibly easy)
  • so far, thoroughly enjoying the experience
  • and yes, it’s all open source
  • and I’m already working on the next iteration
    • reset switch
    • re-adjusting some routing
    • adding in a base (Plaid or Seigaiha style)
      • I really like the plateless build
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