lazyvar

I think you forgot to read the fact that these “children” must’ve done something to be put in prison or detention, either because they did some crime against israeli or by illegally staying in israel. Do you think they’re too stupid to purposely want to be hated by the whole world by jailing innocent childrens?

Bless your heart.

You think they give two shits about me and you hating them? They barely care what the US thinks of them, as long as the US remains a useful idiot that’ll veto any chance at accountability.

Netanyahu is on the record of calling the US a puppet:

I know what America is […]America is a thing you can move very easily, move it in the right direction. They won’t get in the way.

Since taking hostages is a war crime, the whole “prisoners” thing is an extremely thin veil to circumvent those laws.

Extremely thin, because they use administrative detention and military courts with “secret” evidence for the few that are lucky to see a court in the first place.

Not to mention the litany of human rights violations that occurs in the prisons themselves.

Even POWs are to be treated better than the ~~administrative detainees~~ hostages according to the Geneva Convention on Prisoners of War.

So about those laws.

Also wondering which Israeli laws allow for the physical, mental and sexual abuse of children. Perhaps it might be good to change those if they exist.

And since we’re on the topic of laws. Perhaps we should look into Article 2 of the CPPCG, and, if Israel insists these people are prisoners of war, which seems to be the case with the venue of choice being a military court, Article 13 of the Geneva Convention on Prisoners of War.

Surely the “only democracy in the Middle East” will adhere to most supreme of all laws?

I love how you linked to an anti-Palestinian subreddit that ran out of “unprovoked” stabbings for their little propaganda clip, so they just included two examples of Palestinians being hassled by Israelis for good measure (security guard and police respectively).

Meanwhile, the Israeli government themselves published a list of 300 people eligible for hostage exchange on which 80% were listed without charge or conviction.

And that’s not even touching upon the whole “administrative detention” nonsense, nor the physical, mental and sexual abuse of children in between torture.

So either you’re purposefully ignorant in pretending that all of the hostages are violent offenders, or you’re in favor of collective punishment.

The latter would be a rather untenable position, because that logic would mean you condone the hostage taking of Israeli civilians for the acts of their government (more so when you consider the conscription laws in Israel).

The article states:

A majority of people on the list hadn’t been charged or sentenced for any crime

Which doesn’t do it justice. Majority could be a little more than half.

CNN’s Nima Elbagir apparently went through the list published by the Israeli government and found that 80% of them were held without anything substantial listed behind their names (40s mark).

The UN and its bodies suffer from Schrödinger’s legitimacy.

In that its legitimacy depends on whether the country in question that talks about it got its way or not.

If the country in question managed to veto (or get the veto holders to veto) a resolution then the UN will be touted as legitimate.

If not, or a resolution they wanted to get adopted fails, then it’s illegitimate, biased and flawed.

Same for its bodies like the ICC, if it goes after a country’s enemy then the ICC is to be respected and it’s legitimate, if the ICC however goes after the country in question then it’s illegitimate.

“Country in question” in this is any given country that happens to be making statements about the UN.

Surprisingly it’s almost never brought up that the UN is made up of individual countries and is, aside from the veto process and fixed seats in some of its bodies, an institution that’s utilizes a democratic process in its decision making.

Ah yes, the programs that are so broken that they mainly serve as a cudgel against any form of criticism, rather than actually effectively lift people out of poverty.

Not to mention that politicians won’t let any opportunity go to waste to try and break down those programs further.

Don’t take my word for it, look at the child poverty ranking amongst the 34 OECD countries where the US is placed 31st, with 1 of every 5 kids you see growing up in poverty.

Meanwhile many other countries just plainly periodically give parents a bag of money in the form of child allowance, eliminating the need for free school lunches and teachers burning their meager paychecks on classroom essentials.

The closest thing that comes to this is the Child Tax Credit, still meager in comparison, but nevertheless eroded to a joke because we “care so much for the children”.

To call it a Dickinsonian nightmare might go a bit far, then again, you dragged that straw man in here, but the fact that child labor is back on the rise in the US suggests that those times are far from behind us.

I’ll always be in favor of heavily penalizing drunk driving and improving enforcement to dissuade people from drunk driving.

That said, it would be nice if we could take a page out of the books of other countries where children and parents don’t have to rely on child support to ensure children get the means necessary to survive.

The current system furthers this game of hot potato which leads to children having a poor relationship with one of their parents and growing up in poverty, all in the name “personal responsibility” and “muh tax payer moneys” while children end up being collateral damage.