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On stuff outside of lemmygrad, we are receiving a lot of hate, especially by those who just moved from Reddit. Guess they lost their hidden privilege at Reddit as their rhetoric used to be almost universal over there, while genzedong and our other subs get censored and banned. And now, on lemmy, their stuff isn’t universal, as we are more prevalent here. Seems like they really want that hidden privilege back

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

the people who wanted to leave the most turned out to be fash, shocking!

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

How this anti-tankie masquerading as an anti-communist won't attract all far-right reactionaries how it happened on reddit

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Unfortunately the more invested and "hardcore" Redditors still tend to be libertarians, although a lot of run-of-the-mill liberals are now included in that group.

So what happens when you get tons of them leaving a platform en masse? They'll bring their reactionary toxicity with them, claiming "no hatred" or "bigotry-free", while enabling pro-rulling class rhetoric and blanket-banning/defederating with communists. At least this split on Mastodon isn't as heavy as it was already filled with a lot of "leftists", and as there aren't really any explicitly ML instances available, a lot of communists are intermingled in left-leaning spaces.

Here though? They can push all their ire onto lemmygrad.ml, alienating a pretty big chunk users if they defederate, even worse if they eventually do so with lemmy.ml given the admin crossover.

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[–] MiddleWeigh 18 points 1 year ago (97 children)

I don't really consider myself a liberal or a communist. Maybe some mixture of both? I have my own ideals that probably align mostly with eastern philosophy, and maybe some more "esoteric" practices. Id like to think im well read, for being a mostly uneducated person, and I'm very accepting of just about everyone outside of violence or blind hatred, but I have never heard the term "tankie" until reddit. Is it a reference to Tiannemen Sq or something? Just curious as I like to know as much as I can. Thanks.

Also, as someone who's coming from reddit as of yesterday, it's kinda cool seeing more than one political ideal, as I really don't think there is a "perfect" system. Humans are flawed in their very nature, and tbh, we're a little late to "get it right".

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I came across this comment today, and it really makes me wonder how people just dismiss intellectual curiosity outright.

yes!!! they’re everywhere and anytime I see someone bring it up someone comments some shit about having an open mind… uhhh no???

Unlike the side many of them seem to blindly and militantly defend, the side they rage against is not asking for blind adherence to beliefs. You have to open yourself up to questioning your beliefs; there is no value in a closed mind.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I don't think I'm a liberal. If you have any kind of empathy at all for a fellow human and look outside (in the US, at least), I really don't see how you can come to a conclusion that isn't "Holy shit capitalism causes so much harm and suffering we need to find to do something else.".

I don't know what flavor of leftist I am. I looked at anarchism for a bit and I ultimately found it really idealistic. No one seems to agree on what a "just hierarchy" is, and anarchists as a whole seems to argue for the complete annihilation of any hierarchy. I really wonder how they're going to run a hospital in an anarchist fashion.

But at the same time, I don't want to create something worse. I don't want to help build an authoritarian regime that paves over people's individuality and rights. I've seen the outcomes of that and I just can't agree with that.

I probably look dumb saying this but my preferred ideal society is pretty much Star Trek.

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