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It is certainly not perfect, but still an impressive piece of work.

I found it here.

And here is a version embedded in a web page so it scales to your browser window's width.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not a historian but i feel like this map exaggerates the strength of the roman empire and underestimates the strength of the Mongolian/Chinese/Indian empires. Id love to know more though if you guys have more info

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think that's a fair criticism. It seems very Euro-centric to me.

[–] ManosTheHandsOfFate 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I didn't see anything about some of the large and wealthy African empires like Mali or Benin.

[–] taiyang 24 points 1 year ago

First off, that's awesome.

Second off, it reads like the end of a Civilization game, score, events and all.

[–] Why9 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean it's a fact I've known previously but to see the Chinese empire never end is actually crazy and impressive.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's good branding. "China," as we think of it, fragmented into states that recombinated into different versions of what they each claimed to be the rightful empire, many, many times. It's like a ship of thesius thought experiment, almost, but sometimes the boat is a pile of wood, sometimes it's a galleon, other times it's a fleet of smaller boats.

And sometimes it's Turkish. (Sorta)

Source: degree in Song Dynasty era Chinese history. (It's a long story)

[–] Darkmuch 3 points 1 year ago

The empire, long divided, must unite; long united, must divide. Thus it has ever been.

-Romance of the Three Kingdoms

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

So a bit like the holy Roman empire?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's against my political philosophy to say this about a monarchy but it makes me kind of sad it's gone. The world feels smaller without these sorts of things.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You could think of Xi as a monarch.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah but I want him to say it and put on the funny hat.

[–] Why9 2 points 1 year ago

Definitely. Once upon a time, the prestige of the title of "Reigning Monarch of the British empire and all its territories" was incredible.

The weight of the crown back then was immense. Now it's more like a party hat...

[–] jennwiththesea 6 points 1 year ago

That is so cool! I just bought a print on Etsy. It's 12"x60". Can't wait to put it on my wall.

[–] mvirts 4 points 1 year ago

No one would have predicted what came next

[–] satanmat 1 points 1 year ago

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