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There could be key updates in the Georgia, classified documents and January 6 investigations involving the former president.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This seemed to be popular information when I posted it (ahem) "elsewhere". Thought it might be welcome to have here.

If you're trying to keep track of where we're at in the Trump prosecutions:

Updated 9/6/2023

Georgia
13 state felonies
Election Interference
Investigation
Indictment
Arrest <- You Are Here
All 19 defendants have surrendered.
Trial - Fani Willis has now requested a trial date of October 23rd after originally asking for a trial date of 3/4/2024, one day before Super Tuesday..
Fulton County Superior Judge Scott McAfee has ruled that the cases against Kenneth Chesebro and Sidney Powell will both begin on October 23, 2023. It will be televised.
Trial dates for the other 17 defendants have not yet been established.
Conviction
Sentencing

Washington, D.C.
4 federal felonies
January 6th Election Interference
Investigation
Indictment
Arrest <- You Are Here
Trial - 3/4/2024, one day before Super Tuesday primaries.
Conviction
Sentencing

New York
34 state felonies
Stormy Daniels Payoff
Investigation
Indictment
Arrest <- You Are Here
Trial - March 25th, 2024
Conviction
Sentencing

Florida
40 federal felonies
Top Secret Documents charges
Investigation
Indictment
Original indictment was for 37 felonies.
3 new felonies were added on July 27, 2023.
Arrest <- You Are Here
Trial - May 20, 2024
Conviction
Sentencing

Other grand juries, such as for the documents at Bedminster, or the Arizona fake electors, have not been announced.

The E. Jean Carroll trial for sexual assault and defamation where Trump was found liable and ordered to pay $5 million before immediately defaming her again resulting in a demand for $10 million is not listed as it's a civil case and not a crimimal one. That trial date is currently set for January 15th, the same day as the Iowa caucus. and has now been determined to be for damages only as Trump was already found liable.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Judge McAfee, when denying the motions to sever Chesebro and Powell, made a point that Judge Jones' ruling on whether Meadows case would be removed to federal court was still pending, and McAfee did not want to come into conflict with that by making any ruling on whether any of the other defendants' cases would be severed or scheduled alongside Chesebro and Powell on October 23.

Judge Jones, on Friday, ruled that Meadows gets to stay in state court. His 49 page ruling was very clear on the reasons why, and it is clearly written in a way that makes anyone else's chances of being removed to federal court exactly zero. In short, all are charged with a criminal conspiracy to overturn State election results in Georgia; States are conferred by the Constitution the authority to operate elections for federal offices; any federal official inserting themselves into a State election in any way is necessarily not performing acts as a duty of federal office.

The other aspects which Judge McAfee has to consider in the context of severing and scheduling the remaining defendants:

  • Judicial economy: Each trial will need to present all the evidence about all the defendants. Each trial will need to seat a separate jury. This goes in favor of having the smallest number of separate trials.
  • Inconvenience or trauma to witnesses and victims: Because of the above, each witness and victim would need to testify in each case. Fewer cases - or just one - limits the impact to people who are coming forward voluntarily to testify. This goes in favor of having the smallest number of separate trials.
  • Speedy trial: The citizens of the State of Georgia - on whose behalf the grand jury brings, and the State prosecutes, these charges - have a right to a speedy trial. Judge McAfee already suggested that the State's claim of "four months, plus jury selection" may be an extremely hopeful timeline. The citizens' right to a speedy trial goes in favor of having as many defendants begin their trials at the earliest reasonable date.
  • Speedy trial: To date, only two defendants have filed a demand for speedy trial, and they are scheduled to start October 23. The remainder of defendants may or may not file similar demands. Based on Judge McAfee's and Judge Jones' previous rulings, I would expect that anyone else who files for a speedy trial will go with Powell and Chesebro on Oct 23. Other defendants may choose to wait, in order to prepare their own defenses, in order to see the prosecution's case, and in order to delay consequences.

None of that matters. As stated, the RICO charges require that the whole story gets told at every trial. We are all going to get to see how this story plays out, on television and YouTube, when the first defendants go to trial. And to me, fine, let the rest of the defendants wait and see. Those "non-speedy" defendants won't get to object to anything, making it easier for the defendants on trial to throw the rest of them under the bus, under oath, with impunity.

Now, IANAL (giggity), but to my view, a smart defendant at this juncture would want to join the Oct 23 trial, in order to be able to better control the narrative in court, and to have a better opportunity to point fingers at defendants not on trial.