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NixOS is a Linux distribution built on top of the Nix package manager. Its declarative configuration allows reliable system upgrades via several official channels of stability and size.

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NIX OS: the BEST package manager on the MOST SOLID Linux distribution (youtu.be)

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nix is powerful but ultimately very niche IMO. There are a lot of flaw with it.

From a package management perspective its security model seams to be to programatically pull from upstream sources which is fine if you have complete trust in all of those sources.

Nix is kind of a whole new layer of abstraction on top of an already super complex system. The level of programmability is maybe useful for something like a very specific power user scenario?

Also, in many cases the extra layer is a complete 1 for 1 wrapper meaning that its only an abstraction in the sense that its another layer not that its reducing what the user needs to understand about the depths of systemd. I find it hard enough remebering the synthax for systemd services and sockets. Nix has its own different but just as complex twist on it.

Theres also a ton of stuff that I wouldnt know how to even begin figuring out how to do in nix on my own. Search for how to set desktop wallpaper for example. If you feel that setting wallpaper using nix is intuitive or straight forward I would love to understand how?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I think most of your concerns have at least one "yes, and.." response.

For example, yes it's niche; it also has the most number of first class available software packets out all distributions. So it's not a little unsupported corner with a small community; it's quite large actually.

The security model is inherently at least as good as for any other major community. If package maintainers read the new upstream code, it's safer, if they don't it's not. I don't know of any useful security mechanisms in debian or arch that don't exist for nix. However, packaging software IS less cumbersome with nix, once you know how; which leaves more time for code reviews and testing in theory.

Programmability of software packaging is mostly irrelevant to the normal user. Package maintainers will have to do some special handling for the odd package, and power users might want to put abstractions into their configuration. For normal day-to-day, where you want to package your own project and get a dev shell, it's mostly straightforward.

Most of the time, for os features, it's absolutely not 1:1. Many very useful intents are modeled as nixos configuration flags. In most cases no, you don't need to figure out what you need to install and what file to change to set the theme in gtk; there's an option and you're done. Sure, there are packages with less abstraction, but nixos makes it very easy to add. Furthermore, the options are safe between system upgrades which is not always the case for major software releases.

Yes. NixOS is complex, yes Nix is hard to learn, there's no doubt about that. I assume there's going to be many projects down the line taking nixos ideas and wrap them into nicer UX.