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Noticeable things: more money to NATO. Palestina should apply a 'two-state solution' and Europe should oversee 'fair elections in Palestina. Europe should be tougher on China.

Capitalism is mentioned once in their 93 page long programme, in the context of US surveillance capitalism (???).

Their national ideas are half decent and better than the last decades of neoliberalist terror. But I've decided that I still won't vote them even as harm reduction. Back to the study board to decide whatever I want to vote.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The funny thing is; the Market Liberals are the most open to cozying up to China, as they're just following the money. The Dutch left has seemingly been trying to emulate Obama era politics and is wholly disconnected from leftism, willing to even give up socialwelfarism as long as it means they can be part of the inner circle.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Long time since I've seen you around. But yes, you're right. Also, the solution of the Dutch left to appeal to voters again is to just move to the center instead of, you know, having values.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm in China, studying socialism and propaganda. Every other week or I check the top posts, but that's about it. I'm a lot happier.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

emulate Obama era politics

Soo abusing the crap out of the media machine to create a favourable and clean image of themselves, while committing atrocities?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Did I hear somebody say "using their diplomats and government funds to cover up crimes against humanity committed by Shell in Nigeria"?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm voting for BIJ1 even though they possibly won't make it

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm considering them as well. What's your opinion on them as a fellow tankie? Right now, if I vote, the choice is between Bij1, Partij van de Dieren or SP unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Out of all of them, BIJ1 seems to be the most radical. They are a big tent left wing party, and while there are some more moderate people in BIJ1 there's also a lot of radical leftist in BIJ1 including some ML's.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There are no left parties in the Netherlands.