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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/3376057

I held off on Windows 10 for as long as I could until my job required it. Now this nonsense. I hope this isn't the start of them joining on the web DRM bandwagon.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Remember when they killed Flash? That sucked

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Ya fuck them, they should've killed flash five years earlier.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Yep, fuck em.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Always have been. All along the way there's been an issue on sites or software and Adobe has been there

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[–] dojan 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (26 children)

Nah, honestly I get this. They likely don’t let you run it in Safari either.

The problem is that each browser use different rendering and JavaScript engines. They all follow the same spec, but implement things differently, and at a different pace. Firefox tends to be really speedy with adding features.

Rendering is one thing, but for web apps the main issue is how they each implement JavaScript differently. Chromium uses the V8 engine, Safari uses JavaScriptCore, and Firefox uses SpiderMonkey.

Each one of these implementations handle certain JS features differently. Array.prototype.sort is a good example.

This means that when developing your application you need to keep track of what differences each browser has, and write/use polyfills or conditionals to ensure that your methods work as expected on all platforms.

This becomes cumbersome quickly, and easily leads to a messy code base and technical debt as the application grows.

It further complicates testing since you’ll need to test each release on each browser.

The easy cop-out solution is to just support a single platform, and direct people not on that platform to use the browser you’ve developed for.

The go-to choice there is obviously Chrome, since it has the most users. Photoshop Express is a free application developed with the hopes of hooking people onto buying a subscription. Thus they’d want as big a reach as possible. It would make no sense to develop for Firefox and push people to use that instead from a business perspective, most people wouldn’t just download a second browser just to use an app.

Edit: you can obviously spoof your user agent and bypass the check that way. Some features might be broken in Firefox though, and I wouldn’t expect a fix.

[–] lugia 6 points 1 year ago

"Firefox uses spidermonkey"

So THAT'S why the extension is called grease monkey.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Proprietary software has basically just turned into a giant grift and it makes me not want to use any of it anymore.

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