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[–] Rooty 1 points 11 minutes ago

Orr we can reform classrooms where kids aren't forced to stay still for 8 hours a day in 45 minute chunks. Schools are Taylorist remnants whose main purpose is the creation of obedient drones. The phones are a distraction from the underlying cause

[–] [email protected] 1 points 28 minutes ago

It may not be a sound strategy, unless European students somehow don't have the ability to be sneaky.

In Victoria, Australia, we have a full ban of phones that are outside of student lockers, but we use them anyway, and many don't get caught simply due to strategy, either quick reflexes, the sleeve technique, or other ways to hide a phone when a teacher is nearby (or even not need to hide it, since some teachers just don't care).

I suggest a better idea is to adjust classrooms to be more suited to digital interaction, such as allowing phones for certain things like quizzes or other activities, which would make learning less of a chore, especially if the education system is similar to VCE, with pretty much exclusively book work and laptops are heavily restricted.

Also, I don't understand for the life of me why people believe having tech in a classroom is a burden and must be banned, they should just take our advice and adjust the curriculum to not be as monotonous and make it at least slightly engaging.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Will it mean anything? My school banned mobile phones. Most people still snuck them in.

[–] saltesc -5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Well, they don't have to ban them.

Just install profiles on them. Inside school hours certain connections and apps are blocked. We've had this tech since iPhone 3. I'm sure the parents will be happy to sign the slip.

It's either that or ban them. And if anyone's worried about control; then just ban them. But there's a long-standing tech option to avoid this, specifically to prevent banning.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 38 minutes ago

How are you going to regulate that properly without violating the privacy rights of students or without them simply circumventing it? At my high school, tons of us have flashed our computers ourselves or don't even use the school provided OS. Students don't even care if the school owns the laptops, they circumvent restrictions anyway, so how are we supposed to stop tech literate teens from doing such a thing with smartphones?

Furthermore, my state, Victoria, has fully banned phones from being in schools outside of a student's locker, but nobody cares, the only penalty is it gets taken away until the end of the day and we get detentions, but we all have techniques to hide them from teachers while using them, so banning is also ineffective for most.