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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

I agree that the majority of the backlash is overblown, and mostly the result of unclear messaging. However, it's important that Mozilla is held to a standard. They have presented themselves as a privacy-respecting alternative, and when they do things that sow distrust, it undermines their mission.

They're one of the few nonprofit organizations that can reasonably compete with the other major players in the browser space, and I hope they can continue to exist while keeping their integrity intact. It seems that task is proving extremely difficult in the current industry.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They literally said they had rights to everything you typed into Firefox, and then said for "necessary" purposes. Then in the same stroke of the pen removed all references to "Never selling your data". Nope, it's black and white for me. This video can try and convince me that "I don't understand legalese", but I read it right there.

Legalese is just very precise wording. When they use something as vague as "necessary" without defining what necessary means - it means it has no definition. Necessary to who? For them to operate Firefox but will never leave my PC? Then that would have been something they could have written into the actual agreement. Does it mean Necessary for Mozilla to maintain their market position by selling data? Again, we have no idea because it wasn't written down. No, the vagueness was there on purpose. They know what data I'm typing into my browser and how much it's worth.

And I haven't even mentioned how they tried to tell me how I could not use my browser on my computer to look at "explicit imagery".

No, fuck Mozilla, they were very clear in what they said.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don’t get what other options we have though. Some say forks others say safari.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Personally I switched to LibreWolf and it's a drop in replacement. I don't know if it'll be my forever decision, but I've been using it for 4 straight days and don't even notice it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Do you access DRM-protected media on it, ever?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

haven't yet, but it's a fork so I assume it handles the same way as FF

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

I previously had bad luck with DRM content in forks, so I'm curious if things get better. Right now I'm hanging onto my current FF and watching changelogs like a hawk.

(case in point: the Weather display is sponsored content.)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Mozilla is not your freind

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

It’ll be really interesting following this moving forward to see what’s going to happen.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Watched 100% of the video and, as expected, the defense is "I trust Mozilla."

Congratulations @[email protected] for being unnecessarily shitty and deceptive about the video contents.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Don't bother commenting if you're not even going to watch more than 10% of the video. You're right that he has some bias, but he is aware of Mozilla's flaws and presents some good points.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

And how much of the video did you watch, my friend?

I'm trying to figure out whether you told me to waste my time out of hypocrisy or malicious awareness.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)