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Cult of the Dead Cow Launches Encryption Protocol + ChatApp to preserve privacy. (gizmodo.com)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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The protocol is built from the same digital DNA as the Tor browser and the chat app Signal and will be used to create new ways for folks to communicate, share files, and generally surf the web while simultaneously protecting their privacy.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Cult of the Dead Cow

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Feeling old today?

[–] kylegordon 1 points 1 year ago

Certainly takes me back a while!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I am always skeptical when new encryption protocols are announced. We already have quite a few properly reviewed and proven ones. Any new one has to stand all those tests first before it can be considered secure.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If it is based on Tor and Signal its not "new" and its probably a bad tech writer not understanding the details.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If a new protocol is based on Tor and Signal, it's still a new protocol. If they don't use the existing protocols unmodified, they might break crucial parts in the larger security model.

Edit: even the website states

Veilid is a new, distributed communication protocol developed by Cult of the Dead

[–] SheeEttin 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It sounds like it's a new app using existing encryption.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That doesn't say anything. I can tell you "I am using AES256" which is a proven cipher, but I can use it totally wrong, by using an inadequate block mode or not initializing it correctly. Or by using shitty keys, inadequate pseudo-random sources, etc.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

And you can leak metadata left and right, while having the actual message encrypted.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

This news makes it sound like theres no encrypted messaging protocols around. I wish it was more clear what is special about this one. Is it the integration of onion routing and end to end encryption into one protocol?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sounds great, the more options users have the better, I say!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

I haven't heard that name in a long time.