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I know the CEO dug himself a pretty deep hole recently.

I had been meaning to switch all the services I currently use over to proton - but his remarks gave me pause.

Is it still worth considering?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (21 children)

I'm tired but:

  • you'd need to compare the checksums of their web-based cryptography at every login,
  • you could use their bridge but you'd need to give your OpenPGP passphrase to change your settings, for no reason
  • they have the CIA at their administration council,
  • they have an history of unethical behavior toward Twitter survivors,
  • they have an history of spreading conspiracy theories,
  • they have an history of contacting hosting providers asking them to remove blog posts,
  • they didn't share the Lavabit fundraiser so they could get quietly issued a US National Security Letter (overriding the First Amendment and preventing Ladar from appealing),
  • they can access to your entire mailbox anyway, not just to the email contents,
  • this has enabled the arrest of Social and Climatic Justice activists, they replied they couldn't resist a Swiss court order (so that's not their fault I guess, the tech is just bad)…

Why would you trust them for your opsec, and why would you enable them further?

Alternatives include Disroot, Nubo, and Zaclys.

#Proton #ProtonMail

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

maybe not important to some, but I was super-unpleasantly surprised a couple months ago because proton deleted my dormant account. my recovery account received a couple of warning emails (didn't check that one in ages) and when I finally got around to it, gone.

so if you're thinking of using it for anything long-term, know that you have to log in once in a while or it's gone.

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[–] WhyFlip -3 points 1 day ago

Not giving my business to a Trump supporter.

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