Technology

If we never had all this drama where reddit showed its true colours, I think I probably would have (as an alternative to the API being paid). It is fine by me that reddit has to pay the bills in some way.

But lol, holy shit has reddit been awful in the past few weeks. The way they went about with their changes has been completely disrespectful towards reddit users, third party devs, etc. I don't want to give them any money now. It's almost comical how dumb their actions were in that regard. This isn't the first or only thing I've disliked about reddit, but wow did it blow the others out of the water.

By comparison, I've already donated $20 to kbin, the instance I use. If reddit had treated its users nice, they could have had that money. I have no qualms about paying for my usage. But instead reddit makes me almost want to pay money to see them fail.

I wouldn't have paid for, but i would have accepted much better. "API usage is ad free hence only premium users can access it" is much better than "API users are freeloaders that take more than they are giving, fuck them!"

I absolutely would have if things were handled differently, but at this point my only goal is to see spez get his ass fired.

Lol no, fuck Reddit. Enough is enough. There's no salvaging that.

I mean, it's not a theoretical scenario, Infinity is going the paid route so you can do just that if you want. Except of all nsfw, which is exactly what I was using Infinity for. Anyway poor Infinity dev, putting their head into the lion's mouth.

No, once they showed what they're up to, this could happen again in some new kind of paywall. Really hope Lemmy continue it's ascension

If it was a few weeks ago, I would be happy to pay 1$/month for RiF. Now I just don't care anymore

No, because the sudden API lockout of third party apps with yearly subscriptions shows they do not care about contractual obligations.

It's funny, because that was the obvious solution from the start.

"Third-party apps don't sell our Awards or include any of the NFT/Vault stuff^1^, and we're not making money. So from June 30th we'll only be allowing Reddit Premium subscribers to use third-party apps. The official Reddit app will continue to be free for everyone."

I honestly think people would've understood.

But if they announced it now, it'd just make people even angrier. 🙃

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^1^ As far as I know

No i don't want another subscription. Never had a problems with ads as long as they are not abused

Back at the beginning of all this I would have been willing to spend $1-2 a month or so. But at this point it's become clear that Reddit is completely untrustworthy, I wouldn't give them a dime.

Some time ago most likely yes. As for now I would never go back to reddit.

Reddit exists to make its investors money, that's it's only goal now. The userbase are a complication to deal with in order to appease the advertisers. It's not the platform for users any more.

I personally don't think the API pricing was ever meant to be reasonable or cover their true costs. Between the absurd pricing, the short timing, their test that blocked mobile web browsers, and refusal to even negotiate, it's clear to me that they just want to kill 3rd party apps and force everyone on mobile into the official mobile app where they can enforce their monetization schemes.

Not at this point. I don't want to give bad faith actors my business, and Mr. Huffman has shown himself to be a big ol' penis. At the beginning? With unadulterated access (i.e. NSFW content) and gentler rules for 3rd party apps? Sure, I would have been ok with that.

I created an account just to emphatically say NO.

I’d be willing to pay for Apollo premium(I should have a while ago) to pay for API costs, but fuck Reddit! Seriously if Apollo/RIF came forward and said “Reddit is going to charge us for API, the price is high but reasonable” I’d have bought Apollo premium to help out, but 20mil? Nah, that’s Reddit crushing competition and fuck them.

Probably, yeah. Now I'm less enthusiastic since I don't trust Reddit at all and I'd be only willing to pay as a way to support them.

Not anymore. Not after how much of a shitbag spez has been. Im done.

I'm not sure I would accept Reddit paying me to go back, let alone me paying to use Reddit. The API debacle has laid bare the problem with centralised, proprietary social media - the users who create the value of the platform ultimately have no control over the platform. If it wasn't APIs and third party apps it could by anything else.

Why invest time (and money) contributing to something that could be pulled out from our feet at any point, with no recourse?

Yes. One of the legitimate issues with 3rd party apps is the lack of ads. Paying for Reddit premium would solve that issue because premium is supposed to be ad-free anyway

Honestly, if they started with that and said the reason is that they need to up their revenue because they're losing money. I might do because it is only £29.99 when going through the Reddit app.

HOWEVER, because of what has gone on since.... f' them.

10$ annually to login via api. Not a single cent more.

Now that reddit fucked it up and I've found a nice community, idk.

Originally I would have. Like if they made it something reasonable, $1/month for the API access for example. And the app developer could make it a $2-3 a month subscription so they also get funding on top.

The way Reddit has acted though they burned all bridges. I nuked my 11 year old account and overwrote all my comments and posts for that time.

It absolutely makes sense why Reddit is doing this, but it will only get worse from there. This is not about ad-revenue (or it's only a small part of it). Reddit wants to get rid of third party apps for several reasons:

• User data, they can't track you as well and sell your data if you don't use their native apps
• NFTs: Third party apps are similar to old.reddit.com, there are no avatars, limited awards, new Reddit features are often ignored. Can't sell shit in your shop if your users can't see it
• Advertisement: Of course they could have pushed ads over the API, but at this point it's not enough for them
• Censorship: The API is also used for archiving posts, keeping a history of posts and comments and so on. Reddit wants full control over their content

Reddit is already making the mobile browser version of their site unusable (It keeps forcing you to the app, doesn't show some content, doesn't show NSFW and they even made a beta version for a few users that breaks the entire site). They want you on their app. old.reddit.com is next to go, I bet on it, it will take a while but it's 100% at this point.

The whole site is fucked :-/

nope