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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've used Relay for more than 8 years. /u/DBrady hasn't officially closed it down, but it is clear that it will be closed as well.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I loved Relay while I was on Android. I'd say it's the best Reddit app on Android. When I switched back to IOS, I was able to customize Apollo to pretty much mimic the UI of Relay's.

Once June 30th rolls around, my reddit usage dies along with Apollo.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I want Reddit to get what they deserve. Fuck 'em.

I really hope Christian gets through this. Working so hard on an app for years, only to see it get flushed down the toilet because of Reddit's ridiculous pricing and them not budging on it, has to be a nightmare to experience.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I would highly recommend that everyone run a tool like Redact over your reddit accounts. Deprive them of your user contributions if they're going to play this way.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Just deleted all my Reddit accounts! Another social media to forget about... 🥱

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

That’s, so sad. Apollo has so many users that are going to be heartbroken. Feel bad for Christian.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

I also just signed up for Lemmy because of this announcement. I assume there are going to be at least a small number of people transitioning to Lemmy over the coming weeks. At least if the response from so many that they’re leaving Reddit entirely is anything to go by.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Yep, and this is what caused me to sign up for Lemmy! Hello!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The first one to fall, unfortunately. The conversation the Apollo Dev had with the admins seemed pretty bleak. I'm slowly accepting that Reddit needs to die. As a Redditor, we built it. We can kill it.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use Sync, but I can only imagine it'll be the same story there. It sucks, and I can't stand to use Reddit any way but through third party apps.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

My Reddit life started with Apollo 8 years ago, and it will end on the 30th. Thank you

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Have been a satisfied user since 2021. It's short but sweet. Gonna move on to Lemmy. I can't wait for a stable release of Mlem!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, this was exactly the outcome Reddit was aiming for with the exorbitant pricing. They want to force everyone to use their app. I hope it backfires on them.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is huge, I don't have statistics but surely the most popular third party app.

I really hope reddit is hurt a lot by this move they're doing. It feels like it's probably too late for them to walk it back and that's probably a good thing. As much as I really enjoy a lot of the communities over there, I don't think it's healthy they remain on reddit, they clearly don't have the best interests of their users now, if they ever did. I know they've lost me and a lot of people who are moving over to lemmy, but I do hope a lot more follow and this hurts them.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Just going off of a quick stroll through the iOS app store (as of time of this post)

  • Apollo is the highest rated 3rd party reddit app at #11 in the News category (for comparison, the next highest was Narwhal at #75 within this same category)
  • Apollo does not however breach the top 200 apps app-store-wide. The official reddit app does at #52 overall. and enjoys the company of other ubiquitous apps like Hulu, Duolingo, Google Drive, and Disney+, all within 10 ranks of it on the overall list.
  • It does seem that reddit has crunched their numbers and gambled that 3rd party app users and the uproar they are in is a calculable loss against the groundswell of desktop and official reddit app users.
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

The one issue with social networks isn't necessarily the raw numbers, but rather what apps to your critical users use? We already know tons of subreddit mods use 3rd party apps for better tools. Power users -- often those more likely to generate content -- are also more likely to use third party tools. General consumers are more likely to use the first-party tool. What happens if there's a dramatic drop in content generation, or subreddits get overrun with spam? The relationship is often complex because the user base isn't homogeneous.

That said, as I get older I realize more and more that just because someone is running a company, it doesn't mean they have any actual qualifications to be there. And this might just be a really surface-level evaluation and understanding on behalf of Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

It's sad to read, but perhaps this will be a reckoning for many of the major platforms. There has been a recent trend among corporate software developers to assume that they can simply replicate what third party contributors do for their platform and they don't appreciate the amount of effort it takes to properly replace. I'm hoping that this helps encourage migrations to open-source platforms like Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

When I clicked the link I got a pop up on the website prompting me to view this trending conversation on the reddit app,oh the irony...

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

I wonder if this could be viewed as anti-competitive. Reddit's control over the site gives them leverage to squeeze out others who engage with the userbase.

Others, like the founder of Apollo, are denied access to users by reddit's anti-competitive behavior.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

nooo :(

another reason to stop using reddit

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stop the enshitification! I feel like greed is ruining so many nice things lately. Streaming services, gaming and a lot of social media as well. More costs for more ads and increasingly bad content. First post on Lemmy and will try to advertise it to my friends, lets hope for a better take off than Mastodon!

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I hope this apps could be migrated to the fediverse alternatives, like Tapbot has done with Tweetbot (now it works with mastodon). They have a lot of work done and it will help to bring and mantain more users to fediverse (I prefer free apps, but the more options to choose, the better)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

this is funny because lemmy admin actually hopes reddit to reverse the decision. lemmy server isn't ready even by just only adding 500k user

suffering from succses

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But the new users can join any lemmy server and still interact with everyone, so ideally the load would be distributed throughout all the instances instead of making one of them overloaded.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yes but even 40k users per instance requires substantial amount of resources right now to keep things not-stuttering. And Apollo has millions of users. So we’d need 200 new instances as big as the largest ones we already have. And that’s assuming activity pub caching is already ironed out. Idk if it is.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I really, really hope a good amount of developers can convert their apps to work with the Lemmy API. Would be a shame to see all the wonderful work across the 3rd party apps go the way of the dodo :(

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