Please don’t use Brave. It’s got a bunch of crypto bullshit built into it, has a terrible track record of doing scummy shit, and to top it all off is based on chromium anyway.
Just use Firefox!
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I don’t want to use the crypto, if I just turn it off and use brave as an improved chrome, then which one is better?
Brave still doesn’t have your best interests in mind. They’re a for profit company. They’ll eventually drop the crypto garbage because it’s worthless anyway, but rest assured they’ll attempt some other way to wrangle money out of you and it probably won’t be good.
Again: just use Firefox! It’s the opposite of all of that.
Reminder that stock firefox is less privacy-oriented than Brave and they use Google as the default search engine
I know that. In the title I said that I’m comparing brave to Firefox with ublock
You are probably better off switching back to Edge, Opera GX, Chromium or even Chrome instead of Brave if you still want to use a chrome based browser. They have made some questionable decisions in the past.
BAT cryptotokens
So brave rewards you with their own injected advertisements with crypto, probably their most discussed feature. Could be a good idea if implemented correctly. But the real issue here is that they block advertisements and then add their own "privacy minded" advertisements back into the page for which you and they earn some crypto. So not only do you still see some ads with the default settings, now the site/content creators get nothing and brave earns money of your page views.
Creator donations
Speaking of content creators: At some point brave also had donation links on Youtube for those content creators that now earn less trough blocked advertisements and make brave money. Showing these donation links for specific creators, with their name and photo attached, with no opt-in or consent from creators themselves. Tom Scott even asked if they could refund everyone that donated to which they replied "Refunds are impossible". It looks like they changed the way that works after feedback though so no funds are being donated anymore unless the creator verifies in brave.
Affiliate links
At some point brave changed URL's from binance, even when typed in manually, directly to their affiliate link. They even publicly apologized after that. Which shows they are willing to change URL's to earn some money off you.
So yeah you could probably still use Brave even if you disable the crypto aspect but from actions in the past they have shown they really want to earn money off you. And they haven't hesitated to explore boundaries of what people find acceptable to get that money in the past. I personally wouldn't trust them to not do something questionable in the future either, crypto or no crypto.
So what if I don’t log in when I use brave? Then it would have no way to get money from me.
You think they can't earn money from users that are not logged in? Sweet summer child.
They will still show ads on the search page. The dirty affiliate redirects they will think off will still work in their browser. You are effectivly using a software platform they have total control over. Offcourse they are going to find ways to earn money.
It's like saying Facebook can't track me because I'm not logged in. Or Google Ads don't earn money from me because I'm not logged in.
I don’t use the brave search engine (I’ve always been using ecosia) and just use it as a pure browser, would that be fine?
A comment I was waiting for. “Brave is crypto scam, period”. OP you won’t get an objective insight from Firefox community.
Use Firefox. Brave is Chromium. Brave's crypocurrency stuff is shady, I need a browser not a crypto. uBlock (arguably the best extension) properly only works on Firefox. There is LibreWolf (Firefox mod) if you want ready to use, hardened browser.
I don’t want to use the crypto, if I just turn it off and use brave as an improved chrome, then which one is better?
uBlock (arguably the best extension) properly only works on Firefox
Isn't brave's adblocker just ublock?
Still no, try ungoogled chromium. Unlock is much more than adblocker, their page describes it better
With how ripe the Chromium Monopoly is for abuse, I would strongly consider using Firefox. Or even better, Librewolf.
Too many people here seem to be too focused on cryptocurrency and ignore the data mining that Firefox does, even when you turn off telemetry collection in Firefox settings.
I'm not saying Firefox is bad, but cryptocurrency issues of brave don't compare to the data mining of Firefox. Use what you prefer, as either are very good browsers when setup right.
That sounds interesting. Do you have anything going in depth about what data is being collected by Firefox? I haven't heard about that before now.
I like it with sauce, pretty please.
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