Why are some men scared of successful women?
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Are we checking? This is a place to take a p*ss out of motorsports.
F1 is not the only motorsport in the world, so go ahead and post your shitposts about WEC or MotoGP or IndyCar or ralley or Polish Speedway or whatever. Even Formula E, I guess. It needs some love, too.
By the way, F2 > F1.
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Because they think the best woman is still worse than the worst, man
Usually only mediocre men are afraid, because now there's more competition and they have to try. The study I always think back to is the one that shows that low skill players are often the most likely to hurl sexist insults at women in lobbies.
Why are some men scared of successful women?
Projecting their own failings onto others.
Men who are inferior to their fellow men, are always most anxious to establish their superiority over women. -Mary Wollstonecraft
A woman being good at something = woke I guess?
Real question, is there any physiological reason women would be better or worse at racing cars than men are? I don't know anything about formula one.
Or it is similar to chess, where it's mostly just that women have been socially crowded out of competing because they get mistrested
Real question, is there any physiological reason women would be better or worse at racing cars than men are?
No, it's more a matter of social norms.
I don’t know anything about formula one.
Luckily, they race in World Endurance Championship and not F1 ;)
From everything I've seen and read; the main fitness requirement is being light, and operating the car under heavy G forces. Which is exactly the same as a fighter pilot. Which women have been doing very successfully for decades.
So in my opinion, It's just toxic masculinity.
Alway speaking of averages in the following paragraph:
On average the reaction time of women is a bit slower than the one of men. But age plays quite a role as well, which doesnt seem to hinder Alonso or Bottas too much. Strength is probably not a problem I guess, maybe female drivers have to train a bit more? Else women have the advantage to men as they are smaller and lighter.
But of course the world top drivers arent average, so the question is a lot harder. There are very fast reacting women, small and light men, so no one knows.
Maybe the solution is to treat everyone the same and not hinder women just because of their gender. Then we will see who wins. But when the equal chance is reached, no one knows.
In reality, we don't know. That is very hard to study. But we know from other physically demanding competitions that men and women don't compete together. And F1 is very demanding.
And F1 is very demanding.
AMR test driver Jessica Hawkins said that she finds F1 is less demanding than lower tier formulas because F1 has power steering.
The facts that F1 drivers are one of the fittest athletes in the world despite the power steering should tell you something.
Lots of declarative statements that make you feel good about your opinion, but very little in the way of facts.
Are they the fittest athletes in the world? By what metric? Endurance? O2 uptake? Onset acceleration rates? Do you have a list of the fittest sports players on average?
What you're really saying is it feels like F1 drivers are the fittest athletes, so it feels like women would have a hard time with 6Gs.
In reality Gymnasts regularly experience 6 Gs just performing on a set of uneven bars.
Thank you for your opinion, even though it has lots of declarative statements that make you feel good about your opinion, but very little in the way of facts.
More bulverisms. I asked 3 easy questions for someone that has evidence to answer. You ignored all of them in favor of more emotion and opinion.
What even is this?
In reality, we don't know.
Yes we do.
That is very hard to study.
It's really not, we have stopwatches and cars already.
But we know from other physically demanding competitions that men and women don't compete together.
This is motorsport newb, go watch golf.
And F1 is very demanding.
Yes, and several women, including Susie Wolf, have driven F1 cars just fine. There is currently a female racer in F3 and F2. There have been in F1 as well.
There is nothing stopping women from racing in F1 except prejudice.
They race in Indycar, The Le Mans Series, Super Formula, and dozens of other race series.
Susie Wolf never competed in a formula 1 race. It's like saying that several women kicked the ball just fine, so men and women can play football on the same level. The only prejudice here is the trendy belief that men and women are fully equal, which contradicts objective biological facts.
Female Jet Fighter pilots exist, lazy misogynist opinion rejected.
Ah yes, saying that men and women are different is misogynous. Clown like you are the reason why so many scientist today don't study sensitive gender-related topics, as idiots like you don't always like the findings. And that doesn't help women either. It just makes you feel good, you saved the world by calling someone misogynist online today. You must be very proud!
What findings?
You haven't presented any evidence to back up any of your opinions, you just keep presenting bulverisms.
I just want to see cars go fast in a circle. Not sure why the driver matters.
Letting someone without a penis drive your car voids the warranty I saw it on 4chan so it must be true.
sounds like you’ve not struggled with representation before, when representation is universal then it won’t matter anymore.
I believe you misunderstood my point, by all means celebrate having representation in Motorsports. I was talking about the comments treating that as somehow ruining Motorsports. For me as a person very well represented all over the place it doesnt hurt me to see a woman drive a car, but for the little girls in the world that dream of a racing career it could be the difference in pursuing it or just giving up due to social pressures.
I think you ought to change your language to make your point more clear if you actually believe as you do.
“I just care about x, not sure why the race/gender/??? matters” is a common statement meant to diminish those who seek representation.
This is a comment under a meme disparaging those who think that way, to assume I'm agreeing with the comments in the picture is disingenuous at best.
She literally wins a test of skill and fitness.
tHiS iS wOKe Bs1!!1!
I'm going to chalk this right up there with the women who graduated Ranger school, went to the moon, sailed around the world, and are so much better at driving safely every day, they get lower insurance rates.
At this point being a misogynist says more about them than about the women.
She literally wins a test of skill and fitness.
They (plural) because it's a team of three drivers per endurance race. These days usually Michelle Gatting, Rahel Frey, and Sarah Bovy. Doriane Pin is pursuing open wheel formula racing (still with Iron Dames which is a sister team to Prema) but she doesn't seem to jive with that. I hope she comes back to WEC next season. Fingers crossed it'll be in a bright pink Lamborghini SC63 or Porsche 963 with Proton but it's unlikely now that she signed with Mercedes.
Oh sorry, I should have found a better way to say it. I wanted to gender it on purpose to make the point. They wouldn't complain if that sentence started with "He".
Ofcourse he has a SpaceX pfp