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A.I. Chat removed from site? (feddit.nl)
submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/perchance
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I just happened to notice that the A.I. chat is no longer on the top bar of the perchance.org website.

I know it's been having issues the last few days (ever since the summary update, really), but this is concerning, combined with the fact there's been no acknowledgement of the bugs from the dev that I've seen.

I'm just worried that it's being discontinued or removed. I'd be absolutely crushed if it went away. Just wondering what's going on?

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[–] perchance 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

A.I. chat is no longer on the top bar

If you open a generator in edit mode (i.e. with #edit at the end of the URL) then that button isn't shown. If you go out of edit mode and refresh, the button will appear.

I’m just worried that it’s being discontinued or removed

No, the AI plugins will never be removed, never be paywalled, etc. I have noticed in some social media posts there's a weird anxiety around the AI stuff on Perchance going away, or being made a "premium" feature, or something. I want to very strongly reiterate: This will never happen. It's sustainable thanks to ads (+ a lot of work optimizing the load balancing server and GPU servers), and it's completely self-funded, so I don't have investors telling me to filter it, or try to make a profit, or whatever. The AI plugins will only ever get upgraded, and they'll always be free. If you come across other anxious people, please link them to this post.

(I'm guessing the fear comes mostly from seeing other "AI sites" shutting down, or doing a bait-and-switch by making it free for a while, and then charging once the site becomes popular, or adding a filter in order to attract investors, and stuff like that. Once you've been here for a while, you'll start to understand that Perchance is "weird" in a way that puts it in a completely different category from sites like that. Perchance is a "public good" that I maintain, not a "startup".)

combined with the fact there’s been no acknowledgement of the bugs from the dev that I’ve seen

I might have missed this? Please link me or share a bug report in a reply here. Edit: Ah, found in your post history - will read and reply to that post now.

[–] kljafgg9r0 2 points 3 months ago

You are a god amongst men

[–] Cocell 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I have one question, which may be a bit personal... What is your gender? 😅

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Yeah...that is a little personal, lol.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I might have missed this? Please link me or share a bug report in a reply here.

I made this post a few days ago: https://feddit.nl/post/18575084

Was just letting you know. I mean, I had hoped you were aware of the issues, like the summaries being unusable despite the recent update. I was just concerned that I never saw like a 'I'm aware of the issues. May take some time." or something, lol.

Seeing the A.I. chat disappear from the top-bar freaked me out a little, though. (I just checked the site in incognito mode and it's still missing. I've refreshed pages. Dunno.)

And, I really, super appreciate that you're doing your utmost to keep things free, but seriously, if you had like a ko-fi or anything, I'd be happy to throw a little money your way. No strings attached, just appreciation for this amazing app. I'm not a developer, just a user, but it's like...my favorite thing now, lol. I can't wait for the summaries and memories to come back because it's pretty...hard to keep a story coherent right now, lol.

Cheers, and thanks for the response.

[–] perchance 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I made this post a few days ago

Thanks, I just replied in that thread

I just checked the site in incognito mode and it’s still missing. I’ve refreshed pages. Dunno.

Weird. I'm curious - can you try in guest mode? I.e. if in chrome, then click the avatar in the top right (to the left of the 3 vertical dots) and then click the "Guest" profile.

I can’t wait for the summaries and memories to come back because it’s pretty…hard to keep a story coherent right now, lol.

Summaries should have been working fine, but I think I just discovered the and fixed the bug that was causing this - thanks!! Memories hopefully will be added back in the next few days (otherwise keep pestering via the feedback button to move it up my todo list).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Weird. I’m curious - can you try in guest mode? I.e. if in chrome, then click the avatar in the top right (to the left of the 3 vertical dots) and then click the “Guest” profile.

Summaries should have been working fine,

Trust me, they haven't been. The AI hasn't been able to remember anything beyond the immediate messages in whatever range it has. (Could you tell me the range, approximately?)

I've just checked /sum again, and get an error that says the thread isn't long enough for a summary (no way to regenerate or anything. The thread is super long, lol.) Edit: did try triggering A.I. responses, but in the little status area where it shows "mem/lore queries" "generating" etc. It just skips straight to "generating" every time.

[–] Cocell 1 points 3 months ago

It is nothing much, I have seen this since like, last year. (Sorry I didn't report this 💀)

Most of the time it goes away when I refresh it, kinda like Lemmy, where it does not logs me in automatically until I refresh.

[–] perchance 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh, very strange, I have no idea what is causing the ai chat header button to be missing for you. If anyone else is reading this thread and has the same issue, please comment. I've tested on my Ubuntu machine, and on several different versions of Chrome on Windows (using a BrowserStack machine), and the button appears like normal for me.

error that says the thread isn’t long enough for a summary

If you refresh the page, and then chat for >10 messages, it should start the summary process. It'll take a few messages for it to get started, and it'll take quite a while to "catch up" to where you're at in the story if it's a long chat (since the summarization process is iterative). Let me know if it you still get the "thread isn’t long enough" message (when typing /sum) after chatting for >10 messages, since that would indeed indicate a bug of some sort.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Let me know if it you still get the “thread isn’t long enough” message (when typing /sum) after chatting for >10 messages, since that would indeed indicate a bug of some sort.

33 messages in and still no summaries. A.I. doesn't appear to remember things outside of the recent chat content.

[–] perchance 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Hmm. Summaries are working for me on old threads, and on a new thread I just tried. I wonder if the bug caused summarization in that particular thread of yours to "break" somehow. If you're able to try starting a new chat, and get it to about 30,000 characters, and still don't see summaries, then that would confirm that theory. Alternatively, if you can share a saved thread that is broken, then that would allow me to debug this - you can delete text from the chat that isn't shareable (just make sure you confirm that summaries still aren't working after doing that). There's a save button on each chat thread in the list - use that instead of a full export. But note that it will share the characters from the thread along with the messages. No worries if you aren't able to share anything, of course.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Okay, I started a new thread, got it to tell me a short story and then some, still no summaries. I downloaded firefox and tried importing two threads, no summaries. I can dm you the new thread I made for testing if you need.

Edit: Forgot to mention I also went to older threads, which had summaries, haven't been touched since the update, and can't access their summaries either. So yeah, all my threads are like that.

Edit Edit:

Oh, very strange, I have no idea what is causing the ai chat header button to be missing for you.

Checked it in firefox, it's missing there too for me.

[–] perchance 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for sharing test thread via DM! Found the issue and solved it. Let me know if you're still having any problems. The problem was only happening with characters that had custom code, which was the reason I was missing it in my tests. Thanks again for your patience and going to the effort of DMing me an example! Makes bug-finding 100x easier.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Omfg I love you! (I had thought about the custom code as a variable but thought surely changing avatar size was benign.)

I did notice in the last few minutes before I checked here that it seemed to be working a little better. Thanks so much!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Lol, well I figured out what was happening to the header button. I had the desktop scaling to 175% (a recent change), setting it back to the recommended amount (150%) and reloading the tab restored the ai chat button at the top of the site. Weird.

Didn't fix the summaries, sadly. XD

[–] wthit56 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

For the record, I see the ai chat link in my browser just fine, logged out or logged in, at all times. Remember, that's just a link to a page. You can always go straight to that page without that link to take you there. So even if you can't see the button you can still use that generator.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah, I have it bookmarked. Just thought it was an ominous sign, lol. (But it was...scaling issues. x_x )