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For the new ppl here to the community, just wanna say welcome! This is an exciting time to find your way to the Fediverse. It's a massive network and has potential to be even larger. I see so many new and interesting communities pop up daily with members that are here to share knowledge and collaborate with others as well simply be social and chat, even large social platforms are now finding their way to the Fediverse as well.

Threads by Instagram/Facebook is now part of this huge space. This is a great thing, I feel with large social platforms finding their way here network stability will increase. There's some cons to this too. We all know when big business moves to town the ads come as well. What is everyone's thoughts on this? 🐈‍⬛

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[–] Debo 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I believe the thoughts are to not federate with Threads.

Problem solved.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

No it will not support federation for a while. It's also not available in several countries including the EU. Meta's may have got their user base all fired up for something that may very well fizzle out and die. That's okay, I care not about Meta however those that get a feel for the Fediverse and become familiar may make the decision to relocate permanently, leaving such disdain that is now Reddit and others, even Meta. 🐈‍⬛

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most of us new folk are trying to get away from the enshittification of Reddit. We don't need Meta coming in and screwing this place up too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This I can agree with, no one wants Meta's rules and regs. Of course, no one has to join Threads. Meta cannot impose any real rules on this entire network or even other solo servers. Threads WILL bring many who have never considered this network, this means more people who will build and help this platform grow. Many new developers could a great asset to the network. No one will allow Meta impose their rules and regs on the entire network. Here's how this will play out...people that see how the Fed. works, although they may be part of Meta's Threads they see they're lorded over by Meta's policies and will see how free and open the Fed. is and cut ties with Meta to find true freedom here or some other server, perhaps build their own, regardless...we have nothing to worry about, Meta on the other hand...meh, we shall see. 🐈‍⬛

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I expect 100% for Meta to obscure things to the point users are unaware that they are communicating with the fediverse. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they only publish and allow comments, but don't consume at all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That I cannot argue that, nor would I, I'm not here to defend Meta at all (gross). I'm only glad to see the userbase grow. This may be a very bad move for 'Team Zuckerberg'. People are curious, once they start asking others and peeping into the Fediverse world they'll pack there bags and bail on Meta...not all but many will. I know Meta isn't allowing full reach on launch by omitting or moderating federated feeds and it won't be long till users will realize they're behind a wall. If Threads begins life as moderated and regulated as Instagram and Facebook users will see no point in it. Consider LinkedIn and Twitter, it'll be stowed into that lack-luster category that no one truly cares to be part of and for good reason. If Meta attempts to impose their rules, Threads will fail and they will shuffle back into the MetaVerse with their tail between their legs...BUT not all the users will follow, there will be those that stay and help scale the Fediverse even more or build upon what is already becoming an amazing server, right here. Looking forward it seems more like a win-win for everyone and the Fedi'V, but we shall see.... 🐈‍⬛

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're actually mistaken, there is nothing great about threads being a part of the fediverse. Unless you're one of those moops that sacrifice the long term for small short term gains. In which case, you are a moop.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My apologies 'moop' isn't part of my vocabulary...try 'Urban Dic." ...We have alternate views. It's okay, live and learn, here's just a small list of the benefits to current users:

Interoperability: The integration of Threads with the Fediverse fosters interoperability, allowing users from different platforms to engage seamlessly without absurd rules/regs lording over the posts that users can view across ActivityPub.
No walled garden: Despite these servers having their own unique set of rules and policies, each would be able to communicate with each other bringing many unaware of the Fediverse together and creating a larger more stable user base.
More freedom: Systems built upon the foundations of ActivityPub collectively form the Fediverse. Right now, Threads exists as a social media platform like
Instagram or Facebook. But in the here, it would exist like a server, among hundreds of other servers.
Impactful moderation: As a large platform, Threads blocking hate speech could be quite impactful socially, ridding nonsense which has now became the Reddit norm.Those that oppose this can seek refuge on 4chan 🍀 where the nonsense is Welcomed.

The only true concerns one would have is those that use Threads and unfamiliar with ActivityPub. Compliance, moderation, and privacy concerns being the focus. This is what those that are already part of Mastadon, ActivityPub...The Fedi'V already became accustomed to. Privacy is always a concern no matter the platform deducing the real concerns to compliance and moderation which anyone forking from Instagram will already be accustomed to Meta's rules and regs.

Facts, let's stick to those, shall we? 🐈‍⬛

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Moop is just a playful insult, not meant to be taken too seriously

Interoperability: We already have that without threads
No walled garden: except Threads is in control, and will likely ingest less content than they publish
More freedom: Doesn't apply with EEE, see: XMPP
Impactful moderation: Meta is known to intentionally set up their algorithms to enrage people and spread right wing propaganda. That's not just a conspiracy theory. I don't want that sort of control anywhere near the fediverse and I'm not alone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

:) Not offended, No worries. I agree on every single thing your stating, that is IF Meta lets Threads follow the path of Instagram and Facebook however here we all play by different rules, this network is built on a common sense approach and propaganda won't fly in the Fedi'V and Meta will either have to get on board or go on-board Threads somewhere in the MetaVerse, BUT...the new users of Threads most likely downloaded the app because they were seeking refuge from the ignorance on Facebook, Instagram, Reddit, Twitter and others...if those users are exposed, even to the regulated version via Threads, to the FediVerse, many will switch from Threads, some may not, but many will. New users who can join this server and others, to mod, to build to make this better than the lording cooperate giants. Also if Meta is driven away and the userbase remains and scales the FediVerse soon media will pick up on what a people with a common goal can do if they look past presumptions, race, sex, politics...etc. That in and of itself would not only be a win here in our little Lemmy instance but the entire world. It only takes a spark to ignite an inferno. 🔥🐈‍⬛

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