this post was submitted on 03 Feb 2024
60 points (96.9% liked)

Science Fiction

13726 readers
4 users here now

Welcome to /c/ScienceFiction

December book club canceled. Short stories instead!

We are a community for discussing all things Science Fiction. We want this to be a place for members to discuss and share everything they love about Science Fiction, whether that be books, movies, TV shows and more. Please feel free to take part and help our community grow.

  1. Be civil: disagreements happen, but that doesn’t provide the right to personally insult others.
  2. Posts or comments that are homophobic, transphobic, racist, sexist, ableist, or advocating violence will be removed.
  3. Spam, self promotion, trolling, and bots are not allowed
  4. Put (Spoilers) in the title of your post if you anticipate spoilers.
  5. Please use spoiler tags whenever commenting a spoiler in a non-spoiler thread.

Lemmy World Rules

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
top 6 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

Since then, hundreds of people have asked McCarty to explain what exactly in the World Science Fiction Society (WSFS) constitution or rules made these works ineligible, but his responses quickly deteriorated into insults, such as “Are you slow?” and, “Clearly you can't understand plain English in our constitution.” However, there isn’t a single rule in the WSFS constitution that could possibly explain why any of these writers were deemed ineligible.

On January 31, less than two weeks after McCarty revealed the voting statistics that kicked off the controversy, the California nonprofit that owns the Hugo Awards trademarks released a bombshell statement: McCarty resigned from the organization, alongside the chair of its board of directors, Kevin Standlee. Additionally, the nonprofit censured McCarty

But we probably won't know why they likes of Neil Gaiman were deemed ineligible.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I was hoping that a smoking gun would be revealed. Hell, make it the plot of a science fiction book if you need to. Why were the awards messed with?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The article mostly says it was some kind of error but I can't help it, censorship and china lives closer together in my brain...

[–] ChicoSuave 27 points 10 months ago

It's difficult to not cite a host country conspiracy because of how many votes were literally bought to move the celebration to Chengdu. It certainly seems like an authoritarian wanted to exercise control over the narrative so they paid for a lavish convention and bribed the people running it. Since the judging is so open, the only way to fuck with it is to disqualify things before the selections narrow.

It's probably likely that the 3 people running the convention who were kicked out of the Hugo productions probably took bribes to not investigate anything despite so much suspicious behavior. The entire thing feels like a short sighted attempt to snub some sci fi authors who didn't agree with the treatment of Uyghers.

[–] Phoenix3875 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

What's "inside" about this report? None of the people inside responded to interview requests and the only development (McCarthy resigned) is from a public source.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Honestly I think that the entire landscape of science fiction awards has gone pear shaped and become hopelessly politicized.

And, like the hyper polarization of human society at large, I don't see a solution.

You'll always have the Sad Puppies (Vox Dei followers in sheep's clothing) versus the folks who see themselves as doing good by amplifying under-represented voices.

At the end of the day maybe these larger awards need to go away and be replaced by partisan versions, which is kind of a sad fate to contemplate.