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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

An ex-admin to whom we have given access to the server, has reported us to the server provider. Also we were already planning to migrate somewhere else. So right now we're moving to a more secure server.

I'll try to make a smooth transition. Any interaction (post, comment, like etc.) after 11AM (CET) will be deleted, but the site will not be down during migration. It will be an estimated 1 hour process.

Update: its done. Hopefully without problems. If you see this, you are on the new server.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wow. I don't know what all the hubbub was about, but I just want to say thanks. Y'all are providing a valuable service and it seems like you're taking a lot of shit for it. Your work is appreciated.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Please clear your DNS caches.

Ironically, if you can read this, you don't have to clear your dns cache ;)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

hmmmmmmm 🤦

let me update old post from db.

[–] Garzak 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don’t understand the problem, does the server provider refuse to host NSFW content ?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Lots of hosts aren't allowing porn on their servers. Even if everything is legal. It's not worth the risk for them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Not strictly but I guess its dangerous. It was on Hetzner.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

NSFW Content is strictly against Hetzner's ToS

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Are you sure? I thought infringing pornographic. Anyways doesn't matter anymore.

[–] Garzak 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I understand the same as you: "It's not ok to host infringing material, including infringing pornographic content". So in my understanding, as long as it's original content, it should be ok.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would this also include gambling materials? something else mentioned in the same section. Is that okay so long as it's original digital poker chips?

[–] Garzak 2 points 1 year ago

I don't have a legal background, here's how I understand it.

The key element of the section is "applicable law". You can ignore everything after the first sentence, it's just examples of things that might be banned by applicable law. (it also states "not limited to", so we could argue that under this section, anything can be banned)

All these things are ok, as long as they do not violate applicable law. So digital chip or real chips are okay, as long as the user accessing it is from a region where the applicable law does not ban it. A list of abortion clinics is ok, as long as the user accessing it is not from a state or country banning it.

This entire section is just a legal shield so that they cannot be held responsible for the type of content you host. They just shift the legal responsibility towards the server admin.

Again, it's just how I understand it. It would be cool if someone with a legal background could show up here and clarify it for us.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

so we're replicating deleted conversation right? 😀

not strictly but dangerously.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Thanks for all the hard work!

May I ask which country we're hosted in now?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The original post stated the country they are located in, they seemed to have edited it. Here's an archive: https://archive.ph/fqD5S They seem to be hosted in Ukraine at the moment.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Ha, man that sucks. Glad the transition went smoothly.

TBH this place has some strict rules regarding content so I am surprised that an ISP would even care. I'm guessing since this instance still hosts LGBT content it could put someone in hot water in some more morally strict countries.

First a back-end mod tries to poison the well. Now an admin tries to sabotage the servers. Seditionists everywhere!

I am curious how you knew who reported the server? Did the ISP inform you, or did the ex-admin tell you afterwards as some act of defiance? And what even caused them to do this in the first place?


Edit: Misread server provider as service provider. Please disregard the ISP related questions.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I got a complaint from Hetzner. He knew the IP and the provider.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

You can easily look up the owner of the IP address space to get the provider.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hetzner (server provider/hoster, not ISP) has strict no-porn rules. So even if you run the most vanilla stuff you can get booted from their service.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Ah, I misread server provider as service provider. This makes more sense.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Same guy imo

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The new server is in Ukraine BTW.

Pornography is illegal in it's entirity in Ukraine btw.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

From the same people who claim to be "legal experts" in the realm of hosting pornography. 🤣

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

🤣 I know right?

[–] Garzak 5 points 1 year ago

This is going to be part of the lemmy lore, isn't it ? 😅

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

seems like it's running even smoother now, nice

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We’re running on 8 core, 48 RAM now. Not much as lemmy.world but its noticeable faster for us :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yes agreed!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

It’s kinda crazy how much people complain. This is free. They’re not paying anything. They could go elsewhere or setup their own. Instead they just want to shit on other peoples fun. Wtf?

Anyway, glad it went smooth. And thanks for all that you do.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Thanks for everything the admin(s) do to make this page possible. It's not just a corner of the internet where people talk about pornography and #nsfw things. It's much more than that.

An approach,

  • for open source,
  • for the community,
  • for an open and liberal communication
  • a role model how to deal with different opinions on (sometimes quite challenging topics and borders).

I've just discovered first hand what it means to make the first contribution as a mod (nothing! compared to what others are doing here). And I can't even fathom the effort it means for those who make all this possible here in the first place. In fact, everyone should be grateful and do their part (support the community, donate, post and comment) which can be done to take the burden off admins.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Posters can go to https://pornlemmy.com for one hour, then come back. LemmyNSFW and PornLemmy are federated, so everyone will see all posts, here or there.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I believe I saw in the other post that the admin team was planning on moving to a Russian server. Is this true?

Given current circumstances in the world, I would like to know if the server fees paid are going to the Russian government (via taxes) and thereby supporting an ongoing conflict.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We are back once again! Until the current host finds out that you're hosting pornographic content in a jurisdiction where porn is illegal, that is.

For those who missed it.

TL;DR: Admins originally chose hosting provider who did not allow pornography. They are now moving to a new hosting provider, with their new server located in a country where pornography is outright illegal.

These are the same admins who are constantly talking about having to make sure that everything they are doing is legal. 🤔

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We try to do everything legally, but we need to avoid risks whenever possible.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How can you say this when you are currently hosting in a country where pornography is outright illegal? Not to mention choosing a host which didn't allow pornography in the first place.

Doesn't sound like you care about legality much at all to me.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Wow, dude. Banned someone for being concerned about the legality of this instance in the country it's now hosted in?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Nope. He was in my radar for a while. He's here to complain. No posts, comments, votes etc. Only complaining about how bad this instance is. I suspect he was from another instance, since he was promoting it so much.

Note that, I'm not against promoting instances but not this way.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This might just be me, but does anyone else have the issue that videos can't be opened within the lemmy interface anymore? When I click on a video hosted on files.catbox.moe, it just doesn't expand anymore. It did that yesterday...

Also, I think I saw on another instance that redgifs Videos could be expanded in the interface as well. Was that added in a newer version? If so, it would be really cool if this instance could update.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I think you are talking about pornlemmy.com

It has redgifs integration done.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm trying to create a community but it says community already exists while creating but when trying to view the community via direct link it says community doesn't exist.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

PaddedPerson wasn't an admin just a moderator, right? So there's a few unhappy people behind the scenes?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thank you for everything!

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