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I did vasectomy at age of 21 (self.childfree)

submitted 7 months ago by noname_yet2077 to c/childfree

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Yeah. Year ago I decided to take my money (over $800 including all checkups and gas) and make myself childfree.

Did doctor asked me am I sure? Yes Do I regret it? Hell no!

I had an internal giggle when I saw smoke coming from where my balls are (since procedure was painless)

Sometimes people tell me it wasn't smart, but they have kids so I ignore them.

I really hate the thought of having children :)

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

To make a bad equivalency: would you have any reservations with someone younger than 18 choosing to have a vasectomy/tubes tied? What about 16? 13?

They don't have the legal capacity to decide it, so the question is moot.

At some point we are going to agree that making that permanent¹ life choice isn’t a good idea as they just simply aren’t mature enough.

No, it's just a question of legality. With your criteria, young trans people would be unable to decide that they need to start a soft transition because they're not "mature enough".

What the person you’re responding to is trying to get at, I think, is that many of these preferences or desires can easily change in your formative years as a young adult (18-25 for full frontal lobe development, I believe).

So? If it's that important for them, they can reverse it, and if not, and it's really that important, they can adopt. But less population is a net positive in general. One person is not going to change the general trend anyway.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

My criteria would entirely allow for early "soft" transitions as you call them. Hormone therapy is significantly less invasive than any type of surgery you could undergo, as well as being similarly "reversible" like a vasectomy. I would have a similar stance to a child making a monumental choice to fully transition. Beginning on the path of a transition is much different than leaping to the final step.

My concerns typically would lie in the sense of manufactured risk when lower risk options are readily available and effective. Condoms are inexpensive, especially when you're comparing to a surgical procedure. Condoms have a reasonably good efficacy when properly used, and is increased significantly when used alongside other contraceptives (not to mention the additional benefits of lowering risk of STIs/STDs).

And just as an added question for you, if these surgeries were not reversible at all, would your views on this change?

We can leave the question of legality vs morality of the subject to the side.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

My concerns typically would lie in the sense of manufactured risk when lower risk options are readily available and effective.

What "risk" are you talking about for a vasectomy? It's an ambulatory procedure. Care to explain?

Condoms are inexpensive, especially when you’re comparing to a surgical procedure. Condoms have a reasonably good efficacy when properly used, and is increased significantly when used alongside other contraceptives (not to mention the additional benefits of lowering risk of STIs/STDs).

You are grossly underestimating the need for most truly convinced childfree people to reduce the probability as close as possible to an absolute zero. Not even vasectomy reaches that, but it's very close.

And just as an added question for you, if these surgeries were not reversible at all, would your views on this change?

No. Less children raised by unprepared parents is always a good idea.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

With your criteria, young trans people would be unable to decide that they need to start a soft transition because they're not "mature enough".

There's a lot more that goes into starting to transition than a trip to the clinic with $800 in your pocket.