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[–] Candelestine 8 points 1 year ago (18 children)

What next? People are perfectly rational actors and thus pure capitalism will solve all the world's problems?

While I appreciate the plight of the Palestinians and am disgusted by the resumption of Israeli attacks, Palestine was at no time a recognized nation on the broader international stage. While a people defending their rights to live on their ancestral homeland is the same everywhere, that much is true, the details paint very different pictures every step after that.

And details are very important if you don't want your shit fucked up.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

@Candelestine @psychothumbs Oh yes, the details. The Israel-Palestine conflict’s bloodiness must owe in part to it also being one of the stages where the cold war served to make heavy weaponry readily available, with both sides being heavily armed by either side of the larger conflict.

I hope the days of the cold war never return. Painting a picture of Ukraine as cold war puppet state is as wrong as painting Palestine as puppet of USSR.

[–] psychothumbs 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Huh? When did anyone ever give the Palestinian side weapons of mass destruction?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@psychothumbs @gimulnautti Erm do you not support the jewish people's right to autonomy? Are we going to have a problem sir?

[–] psychothumbs 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't think Israel should disenfranchise the Palestinians in the occupied territories and deny Palestinians abroad the right to return in order to maintain a Jewish majority if that's what you mean. Is that a problem for you? I see this is your first post but your bio says "people who don't look like me don't deserve rights" so I'd guess we do have some issues.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@psychothumbs @Barafield Looks like we might have a troll in our hands 🤔

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@gimulnautti @psychothumbs "Troll" is a very hurtful slur I am an incredibly serious person thank you very much!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

@Barafield @psychothumbs On my part, quite the contrary. You dress the issue in what you imagine as an attack against the state of Israel, if I may say so good sir.

If you would be so kind as to not promote knee-jerk reactions, but read at least my comment again to see there were only comments about the conflict being amplified and perhaps even enabled by cold-war geopolitics.

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