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Oooh, wish is a ritual now? Interesting...
Honestly, I think that makes more sense now that Paizo has proposed the adjustment.
Not sure I'm familiar. What's the adjustment?
Mostly flavor, but some mechanical. You won't be casting wish in combat any more.
From the Ritual entry on AON (emphasis mine to highlight the changes from Wish as a spell):
Considering that Wish is supposed to be the end-all-be-all of spells, it makes sense that it would be a ritual rather than just a quick "wave my hands and say mumbo jumbo" cast as an afterthought. It now takes at least an hour, requires gathering other spell casters, multiple checks, and it fits the description of a ritual in that it can have more powerful effects than a normal spell.
Edit to add: I may have misunderstood your question. The adjustment I was referring too was the change from a spell to a ritual, not that rituals had been adjusted.
I'm assuming they're also changing the wish-like spells for each tradition like alter reality then? I'd like to see if outside of that they'll put back a joker style spell (the cast any spell of a lower level part of wish) or if it's something they're moving away from. It feel like a good option to have as a caster, one way or another, and I'm not sure I'm a fan of seeing it fully go away
I think I'd be fine with Wish proper being a ritual, but the arcane wildcard spell being renamed. I like the niche of "whatever spell you want" as a max level spell, and would be sad to see it gone.
Ah thanks for the breakdown. Turns out I misunderstood your original comment, thinking there was already a rewritten wish ritual out there from paizo.