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I'm sure this whole article comes as a shock to nobody, but it's nice to see it recognised like this.

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[–] [email protected] 133 points 3 months ago (20 children)

caught in an economic perfect storm

It's nobody's fault, just economic weather. Just bad luck. Nothing to do with corporate capture of the political process whatsoever.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (11 children)

“Capture”. Did no one study the bourgeois revolutions of the 17th and 18th centuries?

The capitalist class revolted against the aristocracy and built new systems of government to benefit them. That is the origin of the modern state and capitalism.

The state as we know it has always been just a tool of the capitalist class to control all other classes. That’s what the state is, a tool of class control.

[–] Bigmouse 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Forgive my ignorance, but which event of the 17th century would you classify as a burgeois revolution? Late 18th century of course, even many during the 19th century, but i just can't remember any such event from the 1600s

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The first one, the English Revolution from around the 1640s to the 1660s?

[–] Bigmouse 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's an edge case, but if you'd count those parliamentary nobles as burgoise then that's fair. Thanks

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

It’s not an edge case, it was arguably the first bourgeois revolution, and without it we wouldn’t have the Dutch, French and yes, American revolutions. I don’t like linking to Wikipedia, but the article is not terrible: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bourgeois_revolution

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