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Valve fans are like Apple fans (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/15970074

Valve:

popularized DRM on PC

killed the used games market on PC

bans people for selling their Steam account

contributed to popularizing microtransactions, loot boxes and Battle Pass

forces you to run a proprietary app to play your games

forces updates on you

pretends they invented Wine

ships devices with a proprietary SteamOS

forces devs to use proprietary libraries to use Steam's features

Gamers:
Yes uncle Gaben more of that please!!!

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago (9 children)

DRM was already a thing on Pcs, and Valves was less intrusive as a player at the time.

I didn't participate in the used games market, but the steam sales are like paying used game prices.

I must have missed how vavle contributed to lootboxes and microtransactions, was that in their games?

Updates are turned on by default, but honestly moat games need the regular updates and steam made those so much easier.

The devices with steamOS installed are sold to distribute steamOS....

f course they have to use proprietary libraries to use features. That is how it works...

Some of those are true while being a reasonable tradeoff for the convenience. The only one I see as an absolute negative is the banning for selling accounts.

[+] [email protected] -14 points 3 months ago (8 children)

DRM was not popular on PC before Steam became popular. It used to be possible to buy physical copies of games without DRM. On consoles that is still the case.

I didn’t participate in the used games market, but the steam sales are like paying used game prices.

I don't know, but you can't sell your game anymore if you get bored of it, so it's still a loss. Games are overpriced most of the time only to have a -75% off sale a few times a year.

I must have missed how vavle contributed to lootboxes and microtransactions, was that in their games?

Yes, Team Fortress 2, Dota 2, CS:GO.

Updates are turned on by default, but honestly moat games need the regular updates and steam made those so much easier.

They have also removed content from people's games.

The devices with steamOS installed are sold to distribute steamOS…

Which is proprietary software.

f course they have to use proprietary libraries to use features. That is how it works…

So I can't release a libre game on Steam and use those features. I can't compete on the same level with proprietary games.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I remember not being able to sell PC games second-hand in 2005 due to all the DRM on it, long before Steam became as ubiquitous as it is today

Also I'm pretty sure SteamOS is just a fork of Arch with drivers specifically designed for the deck's controls. Hell, there's a fork of SteamOS that AFAIK gives you the same experience as SteamOS (HoloISO), which wouldn't be possible with proprietary software

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

SteamOS is proprietary software.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SteamOS

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