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[–] NateNate60 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (25 children)

This article has a few primary arguments for not using Discord—

  • because it is proprietary software
  • because it has poor accessibility
  • because control over moderation and other administrative tools is ultimately in the hands of Discord rather than the community.

I know this opinion is going to be unpopular but here I go anyway.

Other than the accessibility argument, I find these arguments quite weak. Yes, Discord is proprietary software, but the reason it's used is because a lot of people are familiar with it and many people already have Discord accounts.

Although I'm a firm supporter of free software, I also believe that it's more important to use the right software for the job than to idealistically use inferior software just because it happens to be open-source. And yes, I regard most of the alternatives to Discord listed in the article to be inferior solely because they are unfamiliar to users. Sometimes, the superior choice happens to be proprietary and I don't think there's anything wrong with that. That's the way it is sometimes; you can't win every fight, as much as you'd like to.

If your goal is to foster a community of regular users and make it easy for normal users to interact with contributors, there is no choice that will hamper that goal more than using an obscure alternative software that nobody's heard of.

With respect to chat logs and administration tools... for the most part, nobody cares. Discord's tools are sufficient for most groups and few people consider the drawbacks to outweigh the other benefits.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Although I’m a firm supporter of free software,

Lies, according to the rest of your very own post.

it’s more important to use the right software for the job than to

Discord literally doesn't allow me to google (or DDG, or searx, or...) for solutions related to your software. How is that the right tool to use?

And yes, I regard most of the alternatives to Discord listed in the article to be inferior solely because they are unfamiliar to users.

Fallacy of popularity. If something is """inferior""" simply because people have not been trained on them already, then by your definition Windows is superior to everything else. Remember: big corpo trains you to depend on them since childhood in schools, which all use Office.

That’s the way it is sometimes; you can’t win every fight,

Not with that attitude. That is, the one of a loser.

If your goal is to foster a community of regular users and make it easy for normal users to interact with contributors, there is no choice that will hamper that goal more than using an obscure alternative software that nobody’s heard of.

That would be true f people were literally doing that. But no, the stack of software that includes stuff like IRC, goode olde web forums, Stack Overflow-like webpages or friggin' email has existed since the '80s and can be not by any reasonable metric be called "obscure" or "alternative" or "nobody's heard of".

[–] drengbarazi 4 points 10 months ago

Remember: big corpo trains you to depend on them since childhood in schools, which all use Office.

lmao I remember getting schooled by a math teacher when I tried to use libreoffice calc instead of excel on an assignment back in highschool

detail: all the school computers ran linux. fuck whoever didn't have a pc with windows at home

she brought her windows laptop and attached it to the projector and expected everyone to have the assignment files in a format excel could read

problem is, at least going 12 years back, not all calc functions and/or param names translate directly to excel ones

so when she opened the file, which I made sure was one excel could read, there was a bunch of gibberish on some cells

when I told her it worked as intended on libreoffice, she said something along the lines of: you don't go to church using the same clothes that you use when going to a nightclub

anyway, at least the school was trying not to depend on windows

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