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[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (24 children)

It happens everywhere, with increasing frequency. Depending on who's calling for killing who, it's either praised or giggled at or condemned. Off the top of my head...

Snoop Dogg had a mock execution of Trump, where he shot a Trump caricature clown in the head

In South Africa, there are prominent groups dancing around & chanting, "Kill the Boer! The farmer! SHOOT to KILL!! Brrrrrrrap!" But this has been justified because it's "an old cultural chant", totally not a threat. Malema has been called out for this, and he has reassured everyone, "We Have Not Called For The Killing Of White People... At Least For Now" But he "cannot 'guarantee' what will happen in the future".

[–] bl4ckblooc 43 points 9 months ago (17 children)

These aren’t really apt comparisons. None of the them are calling for the military to go and kill a citizen of another country.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (3 children)

None of it is okay. It encourages violence, it desensitizes us, we see a comedian triumphantly holding up a bloodied, decapitated POTUS head with a look of cold indifference on her face and we say, "Oh, it's okay. It's not a call to violence specifically, it's just artistic expression.

I'm picking Trump ones because he's a big, easy target & the examples are easily found. Not because I endorse Trump. It also showcases how extreme violence is given a platform, praised. But there are plenty more examples just a Google search away.

So it's fine for people to depict killing a POTUS all the time, and other people you don't like. That's acceptable. Kill the white farmers in South Africa, after all, they're part of an oppressor class & they deserve it. SHOOT to KILL. But calling for the death of 3 random people is a line too far, I guess? 🤨

Your qualms with this are just the result of a culture with no guardrails, no moral foundation. Human life isn't considered sacred. We tolerate & celebrate depictions of death all the time. This only encourages senseless mass shootings, violence.

[–] bl4ckblooc 6 points 9 months ago

You’re really looking for a straw man argument for this, and I don’t even understand why. The release and reception of this song is vile, there is no need to try and grandstand and go “actually…”

You’re allowed to say something is fucked up without having to mention everything else fucked up and discuss which is more fucked up. You’re wasting energy on the stupidest thing.

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