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[–] HappycamperNZ 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (6 children)

Did you actually read the ICJ report, or are you copying someone else?

Because the incredibly detailed, balanced report does not say Israel is committing genocide, yet theses are the only two words from the report I ever see repeated.

Among other things, it states:

  • there are significant concerns from both sides on human right issues, war crime and individual conduct.

  • there are credible claims that Israels actions can amount to genocide, and a call for a pause to conflict so claims can be investigated. Noting that 1, individual actions aren't genocide, Israel has legal defenses on some that are claimed to be genocide that are being debated (namely attacks on civilian infrastructure and blocking aid).

  • Hamas is using civilian structures to conduct its own operations, putting civilians at risk.

  • Israel is destroying structures hamas is using, which is not a war crime. Notably, Hamas is a designated terrorist organization and its militants are not protected citizens anywhere, including hospitals and temples.

  • Hamas should immediately release all hostages unconditionally.

Two words from a massive detailed report. Noting on Hamas issues, nothing on Israel actions that are still being debated, nothing on the call to release all hostages immediately. If you want to discuss the best report to come out of this conflict, discuss it in its entirety and context - stop cherry picking facts that support your narrative.

[–] erranto 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

They are tying their tongues in knots when the answer to South Africa's case is really simple. Israel "IS COMITTING GENOCIDE" and it should stop.

there are significant concerns from both sides on human right issues, war crime and individual conduct.

it is Like saying we have heard you but Israel needs to finish the job here. So here is a token for All of you Allies Of Israel, Let's All act concerned about Human rights violations and respecting international law so we can buy them more Time. and if any faction of your citizens criticize your inaction, you can refer to our decision as we are the sole jurors of international law.

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