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[โ€“] oakley 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The fact that opening a new instance still requires some technical knowledge is a difficulty facing the fediverse, since the venn diagram of people with the time and know-how to manage server administration and people who are knowledgeable on community moderation aren't always two concentric circles.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But that's not a task that is asked of a general user, even if their goal is to switch servers. If you don't like gmail, the solution for an individual is almost never to start your own email server.

[โ€“] oakley 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Correct. What i'm saying is that since federated networks tend to be more community run initiatives, moderators are gonna be people from within the community and the final say on moderation issues is gonna come from those who understand how the fediverse works and have done the work of setting up the servers that everyone is using. Which I'm sure can and has worked for plenty of Mastodon and Lemmy instances out there, but I'm sure there's also instances where the head admin simply went haywire one day and nuked everything. It's not that the system can' work, it's just that it isn't really designed to gravitate towards experienced trust and safety experts being the ones that important decisions fall upon.

I feel like I should clarify that I have nothing against any Lemmy mods or admins. They're all being cool and helpful with onboarding reddit refugees like myself. I just think that this is an important thing to think about if we want this place to support more and more people and a growing number of communities in the future.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

i'm not very sure if you mean that ppl with knowhow to set up a server are inherently already part of the system and therefore share certain opinions

if you did mean that, i wanted to clarify that setting up a lemmy instance, as far as i have seen, is something that almost any senior developer could do because it's very easy, and i as a junior developer was almost successful in my first attempt and i'm sure i could do it with a bit more time

what i'm trying to say is that it's not that hard and while it's not at the any-user-can-do-it level, it is at the any-opinion-can-do-it level

[โ€“] OldIndianMonk 1 points 1 year ago

I get you. But I've seen far too many users doing exactly this (starting their own mail server) in my programming circles. It doesn't fare well tbh.