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[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (161 children)

Now... Wait.

Is the argument here that something must be owned to be stolen? I don't think ownership is contested, just who is the owner. Or is the argument that pirating also isn't owning... Or... What? Just tit for tat and it looks like the thoughts should be related somehow? I'm all for sailing the high seas and for right to repair / software ownership, but the two concepts are independent as far as I can see.

Idk, if I'm going to try to reproduce this mental gymnastics I should really stretch first: I don't want to pull something and end up a sovcit.

[–] 7u5k3n 25 points 11 months ago (37 children)

This saying / idea sprang out of folks losing content they "bought" via online platforms.

Basically the letter from Sony(?) Said that due to licensing rights content was going to be removed from their servers.. and that the items you bought were no longer available.

So.. essentially nothing on a digital platform is ever purchased . It's just leased until the platform owners decide to alter the deal. And such, if you can't actually buy it... Are you actually pirating it?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Licensed, specifically a unilaterally revocable and non transferable licence to view personally. Leasing implies recurring payments, and some areas allow lease assignments and other consumer protections that aren't afforded to licensing.

[–] Specal 4 points 11 months ago

Renting implies reoccurring payment, leasing just means "agreement to use X under Y conditions". Example A: A device leases an IP address from a router. Example B: You rent a movie from blockbuster.

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