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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by chitak166 to c/fediverse
 

I used to think that there would be 1, main 'Fediverse' with all of the 'big instances' connected to each other. The recent Threads debacle has shown me otherwise.

The point of the Fediverse is that there is no one single entity, or group of entities, dominating it all.

Right now it feels like whatever the big instances do, we kind of have to go along with to be a part of anything. As the Fediverse grows, there will be more options to suit different types of users.

I think it's fine if big instances federate with Threads and it's fine if they don't. People can just join instances that align with what they want. It's not like defederating means being cut out of the Fediverse, that's not possible.

Great design. I'm eager to see how it plays out.

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[–] GONADS125 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (37 children)

Edit: Since so many people are misinformed: No, blocking Threads on an individual basis is not a solution. This only blocks posts from Threads showing up in your feed. It does not block Threads users' comments from spreading hate and extremism throughout federated instances, and lemmy users will still be subject to potential harassment from Threads users. (See the harassment of the LGBTQ+ community on Threads for examples...)

Here's a comment of mine that states my argument against federating with Threads.

Also, I was not trying to debate the issue here. I was looking for recommendations for alternative instances... I'd appreciate anyone actually responding to my comment.

Original comment: Anybody have recommendations on a decent instance that won't be federating with Threads? Maybe one that allows community creation but isn't full of tankies?

I'm jumping ship from .world if they go through with federating with Threads. Such a shame to see the effort put into building this great instance come undone.

This place decided to disregard what the majority of their users want and turn the neighborhood to shit way faster than reddit. I thought we'd at least have a couple years before instance admins started selling out to such a shitty company that's going to make the fediverse a less safe place for their users.

Meta will also do anything they can to EEE and I'm not convinced the fediverse is as invulnerable to such exploitation as some users seem to be.

[–] rglullis@communick.news 0 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Nothing ever stopped you from creating you own instance. With blackjack and beers.

[–] GONADS125 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Except for time, money, and technical knowledge...

Also *blackjack and hookers!

[–] rglullis@communick.news -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So, you have absolutely nothing to offer but somehow you think we should be giving any weight to your opinion?

[–] GONADS125 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Nice strawman attempt! There's no reason for me to even argue with you when your argument is a fallacy and automatically invalid.

Using your ridiculous logic, you must think the vast majority of lemmy users don't hold any value or merit? Because the vast majority of us are not hosting our own instances.

Being an active and constructive user, creating and moderating communities, and fighting misinformation are positive qualities for online communities.

Edit: I've also been donating to Ruud since my first week on this platform, so that's yet another reason your argument is totally incorrect. But I'll definitely be stopping my donations if Threads ends up being federated with.

[–] rglullis@communick.news -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If the "vast majority of lemmy users" start demand things from their admins while excusing themselves from contributing in any meaningful way, yes, I'd disregard their opinions as well.

"Skin in the Game" is important. If you are not willing to risk anything for what you believe in, then how do you expect anyone else to take you seriously?

[–] GONADS125 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If the "vast majority of lemmy users" start demand things from their admins while excusing themselves from contributing in any meaningful way, yes, I'd disregard their opinions as well.

Boy, you really ought to consider taking a critical thinking class at your local community college or something...

You're still trying to build a strawman argument. When your foundation is compromised, you don't keep building on it...

It's clear you're going to use disingenuous argumentative tactics and fallacies. If your next comment is just as juvenile, I'm not going to bother responding. Again, these arguments are invalid upon arrival, being logical fallacies and all..

[–] rglullis@communick.news -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For someone with so much time to go to classes at community colleges, surely you can spare some minutes to run your own instance, no?

Here you go. Go create your own instance and show us how it is done.

[–] GONADS125 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not going to a community college hahaha. I'm working on my Master's in counseling.

Just thought that a critical thinking course may help you with your 4th grade level logic/arguments.

[–] rglullis@communick.news -2 points 1 year ago

The fact that you missed the sarcasm and doubled down by leaning on your credentials is a-do-ra-ble.

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