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I have my problems with Meta, but I'm hoping this will help Mastodon grow

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[–] Not_mikey -5 points 1 year ago (9 children)

To all the people wondering about metas intentions in this it's not the big bad corporation taking down the upstart competition. All the people saying it's EEE can't show any sign metas doing this or even wants to because the strategy doesn't work, any time a company does it it either doesn't take off or they get brought up on anti-trust laws. Show me a standard that was destroyed by EEE and I'll show you a standard that never took off in the first place. All the usual examples given, email, java, html, remain open standards to this day.

The truth is the fediverse isn't competition to meta, it's a fraction of the size and is populated by users who would never use meta services in the first place. They can pretend it's a competitor though. If twitter does actually collapse and people switch to threads meta will face anti-trust suits for owning the three largest social media platforms. If they add activity pub support though they can point to the fediverse and say it's competition, even if it's only 1 % of the platform. They also have to deal with EU interoperability laws that might start getting enforced.

TL;DR this is about compliance for meta, not conquest.

[–] sudneo 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Email an open standard? Sure, on the surface it is. Running your own mail server and getting your emails delivered to gmail/outlook users? Good luck.

Who cares what the form is, if the substance is the problem?

Same with web. To this day, nobody besides google has the possibility to compete in the browser space. So much shit was added to the web standards, that you need an incredible amount of resources to produce a modern browser engine (I am talking one that users can use for their daily stuff, not lynx). You have chrome, you have all the chromium clones, you have Firefox which is anyway paid by google, and you have safari. Period.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can confirm, my mail server does just about everything I found it needs to do to not get flagged spam. And it doesn't except for Gmail. Not even Microsoft has "Spam" filters that strict beyond checking the basic records.

On the browsers, I think in large parts Google should have never been allowed to push for their own Browser in their own products simply because the have monopolies in so many of them. Free market this and that, IRL it doesn't work without some regulations and imo (American) Tech companies have been allowed too much freedom to abuse the market whichever way they like.

[–] sudneo 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Absolutely. Your email has an image? Maybe spam. Your email does not have an unsubscribe link, even if has nothing to do with transactional emails? Spam. Your email is from an address or domain which did not send many emails before? Spam.

It feels the meme from parks and recreation.

And you can't reliably even know if your message was received or not, the only way to do that is asking directly through some other channel...so the fact that email is open is essentially just an empty quality.

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