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Paragons of Virtue Arrested
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It's time to name and shame the self-proclaimed paragons of virtue. Keep it civil, though.
Stories are about those who have been placed in positions of trust, and then abused that trust.
Feel free to add stories of the self-righteous from other walks of life.
New rule: With regard to stories of particularly, but not only, female teachers sexually assaulting students. Any comments similar to "where were they when I was in school" will earn you the right to find another forum.
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Unfortunately, the Associated Press returns to grind this tired axe. It claims that the bishop couldn't testify against the abuser because the Church wouldn't allow him, but in reality the Church has no such influence over bishops, which are volunteers. The real reason the bishop couldn't testify was because of a state law requiring the accused to release the bishop from clergy-pentitent privilege first, which the accused refused to do. So blame the abuser and the law, not the Church.
Clergy should not have more confidentiality than a therapist. You tell a therapist you are raping babies, they have to call the cops. Confession is no different.
Sure thing. The article could have been about the state law that requires this confidentiality, but instead it tries (and fails) to make the Church appear to be a protector of child abusers. The truth is that a state law is the protector in this instance.
When the LDS church's legal council, "advised the bishop not to report the abuse to civil authorities ... that failure to report allowed the church member, the late Paul Adams, to repeatedly rape his two daughters and allegedly abuse one of his four sons for many years," then, yes, I will be blaming the church.
I think you're confusing the inability for prosecutors to hold "clergy volunteers" accountable for failure to report with being a decent human being and reporting the monster. You may think that Adams is getting his full torment in the Outer Darkness in death, but a surprising percentage of the US would like to see others like him face their torment in this life as well.
Did you even read the article? You're talking about an entirely different situation in a different state.
They are pointing out the pattern the church follows. The church protects child rapists and leaves the children to twist in the wind.
That's not really true, but it is the narrative that the Associated Press is attempting to spin with this article. However, this is all irrelevant to the actual topic which is being discussed. You can find the link to the Associated Press article being discussed at the top of the page.