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[–] KoalaUnknown 117 points 11 months ago (4 children)

When the city government wants to install anti-homeless benches, but doesn’t want the backlash from installing anti-homeless benches.

[–] SaakoPaahtaa 35 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It is a lot better than other places but not literally 0.

Per this report, as of 2021 they had 4396 homeless people. A rate of 0.79 per thousand people in Finland.

Which to be clear is stellar.. but doesn't have much to do with the topic of anti homeless architecture.

[–] SaakoPaahtaa 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There will always be homeless people, the ones we have are either crashing or simply do not want to live inside (due to a multitude of reasons involving decades of living in the streets with substance abuse and mental issues). The only folk you'll find here sleeping on benches are aforementioned and students who have had one too many. Plenty of benches for both and even if all benches are turned into chairs we've got intoxication centres and housing available for those who prefer it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

oH mY gOd ThAt'S dIsGuStInG sOcIaLlIsTiC cOmMuNiSm!!1!

[–] SaakoPaahtaa 3 points 11 months ago

Just for anyone who's unaware; it's social democracy, not communism. It is possible to have a wide public safety net without resorting to communism, which is inherently genocidal.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago

This is probably the least dickish way to go about it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

I think your instant assumption about it being done for evil says more about the country you live than it does about Finland, because homelessness doesn't seem to be a big issue in Finland. That's ~5k homeless people in a country with ~5 million people, that's ~0.1% of the population being homeless.

[–] uis 2 points 11 months ago

0.1% is big. I want to see 0%.

[–] galloog1 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The US is roughly the same percentage and it was definitely a comment from a US political frame. In the US they are simply more visible as they congregate in cities.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As opposed to here where they congregate to mountaintops?

[–] galloog1 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Certain demographics do not congregate everywhere. Farmers do not congregate in cities.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

But we are talking about US and Finnish homeless who do

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Also 70% of those homeless people are living with friends or relatives

[–] olutukko 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We don't have homeless people on finland. Or we do but quite minimally, the numbers are in couple thousand if I recall right

[–] crypticthree 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's around 4,400. It bears mentioning that the population of Finland is only around 4.5 million. The Dallas Fort Worth Metro area has a population of about 6.5 million and a homeless population of around 4,500

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It bears mentioning that the population of Finland is only around 4.5 million.

Lmao you might want to check your numbers

[–] crypticthree 1 points 11 months ago

Sorry you're right. It's more like 5.5 million. My point stands